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Some people and my country.

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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:31 AM
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originally posted by: undo
sorry, i love my family, my neighbors, even people i don't know, who live here, i don't want them to suffer the same fate the globalists have dished out around the world. all we have to do is pose a serious threat, and they'd have their globalists buddies here in a heartbeat, helping to fix it, with drones flying all over the place, and assorted bull crap they've done to the rest of the planet. i'm wayyy too old and sick, to survive that crap and so are alot of other americans.

what you're are asking is the description of suicide.


When you are done with your conspiracy theory nonsense about how the US are the last bastion against globalism, maybe we can talk.


In the meantime, I just see someone who is afraid and wants me to pity her while there are people dying all over the globe to defend their ideals of justice and freedom.

Sorry, there is something called peaceful protests and it is still happening in the US so you make no sense when you claim the "evil globalists" will kill Americans if they try to protest more.

Just paranoid nonsense.


If you agree the US government is evil and that most Americans like you are too afraid to do anything about it you are simply giving credit to all my points.




posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: JUhrman

originally posted by: undo
sorry, i love my family, my neighbors, even people i don't know, who live here, i don't want them to suffer the same fate the globalists have dished out around the world. all we have to do is pose a serious threat, and they'd have their globalists buddies here in a heartbeat, helping to fix it, with drones flying all over the place, and assorted bull crap they've done to the rest of the planet. i'm wayyy too old and sick, to survive that crap and so are alot of other americans.

what you're are asking is the description of suicide.


When you are done with your conspiracy theory nonsense about how the US are the last bastion against globalism, maybe we can talk.


In the meantime, I just see someone who is afraid and wants me to pity her while there are people dying all over the globe to defend their ideals of justice and freedom.

Sorry, there is something called peaceful protests and it is still happening in the US so you make no sense when you claim the "evil globalists" will kill Americans if they try to protest more.

Just paranoid nonsense.


If you agree the US government is evil and that most Americans like you are too afraid to do anything about it you are simply giving credit to all my points.


let me spell it out for you:

i am old and sick. i can't fight a war, much less survive one. my husband is too old, as well, in fact, we have a huge population of the elderly here due to the baby boomers all reaching retirement age. if we have war, mostly old people will die. it's like bombing an old folks home.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: undo

Let me spell it for you:

It's not about you. It never was.

You are the one who kept trying to defend the US against any criticism, and when you finally admit things are as bad as I said they were, you try to exonerate yourself.

Jesus lord titties it's not about YOU personally.

For all these pages all I've said is the US gov did bad things and Americans are too lazy and frightened to do anything about it.


Everything you guys from America are posting is simply illustrating this point.

You really can't take any form of criticism, can you? Of course not, it's not part of the American culture to admit a defeat.


Also for f**k sake stop talking about war. American territory is not at war and will not suddenly become just because some people are protesting peacefully in DC. This is like the worst excuse you could come up with to justify Americans not protesting anymore.
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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: JUhrman
a reply to: undo

Let me spell it for you:

It's not about you. It never was.

You are the one who kept trying to defend the US against any criticism, and when you finally admit things are as bad as I said they were, you try to exonerate yourself.

Jesus lord titties it's not about YOU personally.

For all these pages all I've said is the US gov did bad things and Americans are too lazy and frightened to do anything about it.


Everything you guys from America are posting is simply illustrating this point.

You really can't take any form of criticism, can you? Of course not, it's not part of the American culture to admit a defeat.


there you go wiggling around again. is it about the usa people or not about the usa people? if it's about the usa people, then how can it be the usa people's fault that globalists are doing global stuff to other parts of the world? and if it's not about the usa people (which you just said it was and wasn't at the same time), then why can't i blame the globalists? you keep wanting to say the globalists are the american government. well not everyone in the american government is a globalist, you understand that right? and when they are weeded out and killed, kiss your country ta-ta.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:50 AM
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a reply to: undo

Lady, I'm done with your nonsense (I haven't even said anything about the "globalists", it was all you)

But if there is one thing that is certain, it is that by trying to say no one can change anything about the US government you are part of the problem and not the solution.

Have a nice day.



originally posted by: undo
and when they are weeded out and killed, kiss your country ta-ta.


You are delusional.
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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: JUhrman
a reply to: undo

Lady, I'm done with your nonsense.

But if there is one thing that is certain, it is that by trying to say no one can change anything about the US government you are part of the problem and not the solution.

Have a nice day.


oh i get it alright. under your words is the mantra "kill yourselves, kill yourselves". everybody who has studied this situation knows it, too.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: undo
oh i get it alright. under your words is the mantra "kill yourselves, kill yourselves". everybody who has studied this situation knows it, too.


Jesus, you should seriously consult. It's not healthy to be that paranoid.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: JUhrman

delusional? remember these words: i don't blame you for wanting the situation corrected, but the situation was never what you thought it was.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: JUhrman

originally posted by: undo
oh i get it alright. under your words is the mantra "kill yourselves, kill yourselves". everybody who has studied this situation knows it, too.


Jesus, you should seriously consult. It's not healthy to be that paranoid.


this response of yours, in debate circles, is what is called ad hominem



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: JUhrman

delusional? remember these words: i don't blame you for wanting the situation corrected, but the situation was never what you thought it was.


Yeah I know it was all the evil globalists communists/jewish bankers/reptilian overlords/insert your favorite arch enemy here so you don't have to think about what the US gov is doing.

Whatever.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: undo
this response of yours, in debate circles, is what is called ad hominem


Paranoia is not an insult. It's a medical condition.

Suggesting you seek help is not an attack, it's a friendly advice.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: JUhrman

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: JUhrman

delusional? remember these words: i don't blame you for wanting the situation corrected, but the situation was never what you thought it was.


jewish bankers

Whatever.


ah now we can narrow down to your real thoughts:

are you saying the american people are the ones voting against humane palestinian solutions? are we or are we not, zionists? you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: undo
are you saying the american people are the ones voting against humane palestinian solutions? are we or are we not, zionists? you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.


The US are (supposedly) a democracy. The US gov is against a palestinian solution. By extension, it's the position of the people elected by the American public.

I think it's time I repost this. This is not the globalist agenda. It's specifically the vetoes from the American government. Like specifically American.


Year Resolution Vetoed by the United States

1972 Condemns Israel for killing hundreds of people in Syria and Lebanon in air raids.

1973 Affirms the rights of the Palestinians and calls on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories.

1976 Condemns Israel for attacking Lebanese civilians.

1976 Condemns Israel for building settlements in the occupied territories.

1976 Calls for self determination for the Palestinians.

1976 Affirms the rights of the Palestinians.

1978 Urges the permanent members (USA, USSR, UK, France, China) to insure UN decisions on the maintenance of international peace and security.

1978 Criticises the living conditions of the Palestinians.

1978 Condemns the Israeli human rights record in occupied territories.

1978 Calls for developed countries to increase the quantity and quality of development assistance to underdeveloped countries.

1979 Calls for an end to all military and nuclear collaboration with the apartheid South Africa.

1979 Strengthens the arms embargo against South Africa.

1979 Offers assistance to all the oppressed people of South Africa and their liberation movement.

1979 Concerns negotiations on disarmament and cessation of the nuclear arms race.

1979 Calls for the return of all inhabitants expelled by Israel.

1979 Demands that Israel desist from human rights violations.

1979 Requests a report on the living conditions of Palestinians in occupied Arab countries.

1979 Offers assistance to the Palestinian people.

1979 Discusses sovereignty over national resources in occupied Arab territories.

1979 Calls for protection of developing counties' exports.

1979 Calls for alternative approaches within the United Nations system for improving the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms.

1979 Opposes support for intervention in the internal or external affairs ofstates.

1979 For a UN Conference on Women.

1979 To include Palestinian women in the UN Conference on Women.

1979 Safeguards rights of developing countries in multinational trade negotiations.

1980 Requests Israel to return displaced persons.

1980 Condemns Israeli policy regarding the living conditions of the Palestinian people.

1980 Condemns Israeli human rights practices in occupied territories: 3 resolutions.

1980 Affirms the right of self determination for the Palestinians.

1980 Offers assistance to the oppressed people of South Africa and their national liberation movement.

1980 Attempts to establish a New International Economic Order to promote the growth of underdeveloped countries and international economic co-operation.

1980 Endorses the Program of Action for Second Half of UN Decade for Women.

1980 Declaration of non-use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states.

1980 Emphasises that the development of nations and individuals is a human right.

1980 Calls for the cessation of all nuclear test explosions.

1980 Calls for the implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples.

1981 Promotes co-operative movements in developing countries.

1981 Affirms the right of every state to choose its economic and social system in accord with the will of its people, without outside interference in whatever form it takes.

1981 Condemns activities of foreign economic interests in colonial territories.

1981 Calls for the cessation of all test explosions of nuclear weapons.

1981 Calls for action in support of measures to prevent nuclear war, curb the arms race and promote disarmament.

1981 Urges negotiations on prohibition of chemical and biological weapons.

1981 Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment, national development, etc are human rights.

1981 Condemns South Africa for attacks on neighbouring states, condemns apartheid and attempts to strengthen sanctions: 7 resolutions.

1981 Condemns an attempted coup by South Africa on the Seychelles.

1981 Condemns Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, human rights policies, and the bombing of Iraq:
18 resolutions.

1982 Condemns the Israeli invasion of Lebanon:
6 resolutions (1982 to 1983).

1982 Condemns the shooting of 11 Muslims at a shrine in Jerusalem by an Israeli soldier.

1982 Calls on Israel to withdraw from the Golan Heights occupied in 1967.

1982 Condemns apartheid and calls for the cessation of economic aid to South Africa: 4 resolutions.

1982 Calls for the setting up of a World Charter for the protection of the ecology.

1982 Sets up a United Nations conference on succession of states in respect to state property, archives, and debts.

1982 Nuclear test bans and negotiations and nuclear free outer space: 3 resolutions.

1982 Supports a new world information and communications order.

1982 Prohibition of chemical and bacteriological weapons.

1982 Development of international law.

1982 Protects against products harmful to health and the environment .

1982 Declares that education, work, health care, proper nourishment, and national development are human rights.

1982 Protects against products harmful to health and the environment.

1982 Development of the energy resources of developing countries.

1983 Resolutions about apartheid, nuclear arms, economics, and international law: 15 resolutions.

1984 Condemns support of South Africa in its Namibian and other policies.

1984 International action to eliminate apartheid.

1984 Condemns Israel for occupying and attacking southern Lebanon.

1984 Resolutions about apartheid, nuclear arms, economics, and international law. 18 resolutions.

1985 Condemns Israel for occupying and attacking southern Lebanon.

1985 Condemns Israel for using excessive force in the occupied territories.

1985 Resolutions about cooperation, human rights, trade and development. 3 resolutions.

1985 Measures to be taken against Nazi, Fascist, and neo-Fascist activities .



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:10 AM
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1986 Calls on all governments (including the United States) to observe international law.

1986 Imposes economic and military sanctions against South Africa.

1986 Condemns Israel for its actions against Lebanese civilians.

1986 Calls on Israel to respect Muslim holy places.

1986 Condemns Israel for sky-jacking a Libyan airliner.

1986 Resolutions about cooperation, security, human rights, trade, media bias, the environment, and development: 8 resolutions.

1987 Calls on Israel to abide by the Geneva Conventions in its treatment of the Palestinians.

1987 Calls on Israel to stop deporting Palestinians.

1987 Condemns Israel for its actions in Lebanon:
2 resolutions.

1987 Calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.

1987 Cooperation between the UN and League of Arab States.

1987 Calls for compliance in the International Court of Justice concerning military and paramilitary activities against Nicaragua and a call to end the trade embargo against Nicaragua: 2 resolutions.

1987 Measures to prevent international terrorism, study the underlying political and economic causes of terrorism, convene a conference to define terrorism and to differentiate it from the struggle of people from national liberation.

1987 Resolutions concerning journalism, international debt, and trade: 3 resolutions.

1987 Opposition to the build up of weapons in space.

1987 Opposition to the development of new weapons of mass destruction.

1987 Opposition to nuclear testing. 2 resolutions.

1987 Proposal to set up South Atlantic "Zone of Peace".

1988 Condemns Israeli practices against Palestinians in the occupied territories: 5 resolutions (1988 and 1989).

1989 Condemns US invasion of Panama.

1989 Condemns US troops for ransacking the residence of the Nicaraguan ambassador in Panama.

1989 Condemns US support for the Contra army in Nicaragua.

1989 Condemns illegal US embargo of Nicaragua.

1989 Opposing the acquisition of territory by force.

1989 Calling for a resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict based on earlier UN resoltions.

1990 To send three UN Security Council observers to the occupied territories.

1995 Affirms that land in East Jerusalem annexed by Israel is occupied territory.

1997 Calls on Israel to cease building settlements in East Jerusalem and other occupied territories:
2 resolutions.

1999 Calls on the United States to end its trade embargo on Cuba:
8 resolutions (1992 to 1999).

2001 To send unarmed monitors to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

2001 To set up the International Criminal Court.

2002 To renew the peace keeping mission in Bosnia.

2002 Condemns the killing of a UN worker from the United Kingdom by Israeli forces. Condemns the destruction of the World Food Programme warehouse.

2003 Condemns a decision by the Israeli parliament to "remove" the elected Palestinian president, Yasser Arafat.

2003 Condemns the building of a wall by Israel on Palestinian land.

2003 To end the US's forty-year embargo of Cuba.

2004 Condemns the assassination of Hamas leader Sheik Ahmad Yassin.

2004 Condemns the Israeli incursion and killings in Gaza.

2004 Production and processing of weapon-usable material should be under international control.

2006 Calls for an end to Israeli military incursions and attacks on Gaza.

2006 Calls for an end to the financial embargo against Cuba.

2007 Calls for peaceful uses for outer space.

2007 Calls for a convention against female descrimination.

2007 Concerning the rights of children.

2007 Concerning the right to food.

2007 On the applicability of the Geneva Convention to the protection of civilians in time of war.

2007 Calls for the protection of the Global Climate.

2007 Calls for Indian Ocean to be declared a zone of peace. Calls for a nuclear weapon-free South East Asia.

2007 Calls for the right of self determination for the Palestinian people. Other resolutions regarding the Palestinians and their rights.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:10 AM
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2008 Calls for progress towards an arms trade treaty.

2008 Banning the development of new weapons of mass destruction.

2008 Assuring non-nuclear states they will not be attacked or threatened with nuclear weapons.

2008 Prevention of the development of an arms race in outer space and transparency in outer space activities.

2008 Calls to decrease the operational readiness of nuclear weapons systems and to ban nuclear weapons.

2008 Calls to end the use of depleted Uranium in weapons.

2008 Concerning the trade in illicit small arms.

2008 Calls for a nuclear free Central Asia and a nuclear free Southern Hemisphere. Prevention of proliferation in the Middle East.

2008 Calls for a comprehensive (nuclear) test ban treaty. Calls for a nuclear weapon free world.

2008 Calls for a treaty on children's rights.

2008 Condemns racial descrimination.

2008 Affirms the soverignty of Palestinians over the occupied territories and their resources.

2008 Affirms the right of the Palestinians to self determination.

2008 Calls on Israel to pay the cost of cleaning up an oil slick off the coast of Lebanon caused by its bombing.

2008 Calls for a new economic order.

2008 Calls for a right of development for nations.

2008 Calls for a right to food.

2008 Respect for the right to universal freedom of travel and the vital importance of family reunification.

2008 Concerning developments in information technology for international security.

2008 Resolutions concerning Palestine, its people, their property, and Israeli practices in Palestine, including settlements.

2009 Calls for an end to the twenty-two-day-long Israeli attack on Gaza.

2011 Calls for a halt to the illegal Israeli West Bank settlements.

2011 Calls for Israel to cease obstructing the movement and access of the staff, vehicles and supplies of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees.

2011 Calls for the immediate and complete cessation of all Israeli settlement activities in all of the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and in the occupied Syrian Golan.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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okay, follow me here for a moment:

are globalist governments attacking muslim nations, yes or no?
did they also attack the usa, yes or no?

if both of those is yes, then you know that no matter who's name is on the palestinian situation, that the bulk of the globalists approve, even if they claim they don't. i'm telling you, the guys at the top of the food chain do not care about the rest of us. i am surprised you think such statements of reality, are paranoid delusions



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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Honestly, any sane American reading this list of vetoes can only be disgusted by his own government if he has any morals.

Veto against a treaty on children's rights?

Veto against the banning the development of new weapons of mass destruction?

Veto against calls for a right of development for nations?

Veto against condemning racial discrimination?

Veto against the prevention of the development of an arms race in outer space and transparency in outer space activities?

Veto against the protection of the Global Climate?

Veto against the actions to limit trade in illicit small arms?




What kind of sociopathic country does this and yet still gets defended by its inhabitants? It's madness I'm telling you. Probably delusion, brainwashing, panem et circenses.

There's no way the Americans on this site can minimize these things and act like they don't have any responsibility in the actions of their government. And yet this thread is proof they have no shame.



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: JUhrman

am i defending the globalists? no i am not! you are by trying to say i'm blaming jewish bankers in general? no, i am not! i'm only blaming those who know they are guilty, be they jewish or european or russian or chinese or WHATEVER. facts are facts. if the globalists orchestrated the bolshevik revolution and hitler, the war against terror, and pretty much every other war, not to mention the stock market crash of the 20s and 2008, which didn't just effect people in the usa, it effected everyone on the planet (how pray tell did they do that if it isn't global? you let me know when you figure that one out)



posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: tadaman

Stop identifying yourself with your government and stop acting like a victim !

You`re completely clueless about how you have been conditioned from birth on to be patriotic and which is the cause of you feeling the need to defend the atrocities of your government no matter how bad they are...

People being aware about those policies, which have effected hundreds millions of people badly, aren`t going to sympathize with someone his childish whining...grow up, the ones who have reason to whine are people from Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, etc...

...and stop acting they do it all for the greater benefit of mankind, because they don`t !


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posted on May, 4 2015 @ 09:41 AM
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the men who crashed the world part 2



the men who crashed the world part 3



the men who crashed the world part 4



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