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originally posted by: pavmas
a reply to: snowspirit
Well Im a christian and Im hated in my own country, but I'm a catholic, just put British hatred of catholics in a google search to get plenty of information
originally posted by: imjack
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: Gnosisisfaith
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
It appears you've been baffled, what have you to say? Your new testament disagrees with your words, that sounds like trouble to me(for you).
I haven't been baffled, except by you perhaps. Maybe you think you are special and know the mind of God? That is what those who hate think, that they can go kill people for God shouting Allah Akbar!
It's called an overzealous mind who thinks they know all the rules and then they exploit them for or against religion.
See you were a cool Christian 'till you basically said that. You're letting your programming show. Most non-Christians understand 2 specific things about 'Allah Akbar'.
1. It translates to 'Praise God' or 'God is great' or 'Oh my God', not anything a Christian should mock.
2. God is not named God, that is his name, in English. The reason Akbar translates to God, is because they're speaking to the same one you are.
You've shown nothing in that whole statement other than you're a programmed racist(why most people hate Christians). 'Allah Akbar' fits the best of situations and isn't even negative to say, you've been brainwashed. I'm sure you think it means Kill Americans, I hate to disappoint you, but the hypocrisy in this is large. People of religion share faults. Being Muslim or Christian isn't as much a reason to seperate, as it should be, to at least embrace God together, like Christians have with the Jews.
Those scriptures are true and I believe it, but I do not have the authority, nor do any Christians to say "This person can't enter heaven, nor can that person over there", just because what they say and do doesn't conform to those scriptures. Only Christ. Each person's life is theirs to know what God has in store for them, and what they are supposed to be doing.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: imjack
I see your point, if I understand you correctly, and believe the contagiousness of hive minded thinking is to blame sometimes. Rather than remain within a discipline of individual spiritual relationship, (which entails disciplined devotion to what they know is right for them), will leave the train to follow others being enticed into it because everyone else is doing it, rather than stay vigilant about what it is they are actually doing.
If that is what you meant. And the churches of today are definitely leaving the train for destinations that look way off the course of righteousness. From what I can see.
originally posted by: Gnosisisfaith
a reply to: flammadracoI get it, I was just offering catholics support, their faithful have had to endure the misdeeds of the clergy, but as far as Catholic people go, they are usually nice to everyone. So I don't blame them for the deeds of the clergy, and even though I don't believe their religion, I don't have anything bad to say about them.
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
What a load of crap coming from your mouth.
originally posted by: flammadraco
originally posted by: Gnosisisfaith
a reply to: flammadracoI get it, I was just offering catholics support, their faithful have had to endure the misdeeds of the clergy, but as far as Catholic people go, they are usually nice to everyone. So I don't blame them for the deeds of the clergy, and even though I don't believe their religion, I don't have anything bad to say about them.
I disagree - Its the people on both sides (Catholics and Protestants) in the areas I have discussed causing the sectarianism Issue, not their church and to be honest in Western Scotland, i doubt it has anything to do with Religion and more to do with the whole "Celtic V Rangers" nonsense - its basic "Tribal Loyalty".