Does Anyone Actually hate Christians??

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Trying harder for someone that continually misunderstands is a chore.

I only can make it simpler.

Jews follow the old testiment
Christians acknowledge the old testiment
Muslims acknowledge the old testiment

When you say Allah, you're not speaking the Muslims God's name, you are speaking the one and only true God's name, no different than God or Yahweh.

In essence I'm saying, respect the manner you use the word Allah, you're speaking about your own creator. Crafting that word to only symbolize someone blowing themselves up is nearly blasphemy to your own beleifs. Have some respect for the fake God you believe in, is what I'm saying. Not respect me or Muslims.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Yeah I'm just a programmed automaton. Your words only prove how superior to everyone you feel you are, and now you also proved how desperately full of judgement you are for others, and how fast you are to misunderstand what people say. What a load of crap coming from your mouth.

VS:

Matthew 7:1-29
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. ...

originally posted by: svetlana84
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Yeah I'm just a programmed automaton. Your words only prove how superior to everyone you feel you are, and now you also proved how desperately full of judgement you are for others, and how fast you are to misunderstand what people say. What a load of crap coming from your mouth.

VS:

Matthew 7:1-29
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. ...

Look, this is hilarious, but explaining the hypocrisy of Christianity with Bible verses isn't the answer. Just really funny. But people need to stop. It's too many mixed signals you know :-). Maybe they still believe at this point because of that :-( You know?

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowedAre you pretending to be a Christian just to make them look bad? If not your still making them look bad. My Sister is a Christian and is the nicest person in the world. She let me give my niece a Koran and came to my Islamic center for an opportunity to meet Muslims and learn about the culture. She is happy I like Islam, and that makes me happy. I tried to join her church and they refused to baptize me until I verbally agreed with their theology. Islam accepted me before we met. E-mail corresponance was how we met, and I was accepted on the spot. It took a half hour for me to hug EVERYBODY and they were genuinely nice. Not robotic nice, but honest, down to earth nice. And praying that Friday at service I felt blissful peace that I never felt at a Pauline Christian church. I hate pastors who preach guilt, fear, and obedience. I rebel automatically when someone tries to tell me what to do. No collection plate either. I like Islam so far, and love telling people. And the differences are minor theology. There are more similarities.

a reply to: Gnosisisfaith

I concur but I was not discussing that

a reply to: imjack

EDIT - Removed as I reread what you said about being as Chilled as Stoners lol

Thought you said as cold as stone lol

originally posted by: flammadraco
a reply to: imjack

EDIT - Removed as I reread what you said about being as Chilled as Stoners lol

Thought you said as cold as stone lol

Potheads aren't the nicest people in the world, just probably the nicest people in America. It seems nice but it's actually a pretty low bar

How many Christians know that Jewish monotheism didn't happen until the Persians freed them from Babylonian captivity. They learned alot from the Persians and they heavily influenced what the Jews taught Greeks. Ancient Canaan (home of the ancient Israelites) had a pantheon of God's, all sons of El Elyon(God Most High in english, though a name in Semitic). Every tribe throughout greater Mesopotamia had there "governer" God, but all acknowledged El Elyon as supreme. Then the Judeans decided to make Yahweh the Most High God. And this is actual history, not speculation.

a reply to: imjack

Look, this is hilarious, but explaining the hypocrisy of Christianity with Bible verses isn't the answer. Just really funny. But people need to stop. It's too many mixed signals you know :-). Maybe they still believe at this point because of that :-( You know?

Good one! And you start to see my sub-message: The bible in itself os so contradictory that it looses all values.
Sad that the ones claiming it the word of god don^t see that, and people like me have to tell them.

a reply to: flammadracoI understand.

originally posted by: svetlana84
a reply to: imjack

Look, this is hilarious, but explaining the hypocrisy of Christianity with Bible verses isn't the answer. Just really funny. But people need to stop. It's too many mixed signals you know :-). Maybe they still believe at this point because of that :-( You know?

Good one! And you start to see my sub-message: The bible in itself os so contradictory that it looses all values.
Sad that the ones claiming it the word of god don^t see that, and people like me have to tell them.

Yes, because they aren't considering the possibility it's an allegory, and literally, have logs in their eyes, they take the Bible so literally. I've never seen that verse BTW but it continues my personal theory that Matthew hates the Bible/Religion the most.

Duplicate

I don't hate anybody. Walking around with hate would seem like such a drag. I dislike the actions of some people but do not hate them. I am sure that some people dislike my actions too, because I no longer sugarcoat things and agree with people who are going astray. I hint to my friends that their actions may not be appropriate.

None of my tactics work on people who have Irish in them.

a reply to: TheBulk

I don't know who you adressed.

But i will take up the ball.

In my books hate leads to hate, violence to violence.

I respect that there are thousands of other opinions out there. Which is full OK, it tends to challenge my own moral values, to challenge my own critical thinking and i like that.

I don't hate. But i don't embrace ignorance. I respect people of all faith, as long as they respect me.

For instance the mormons; I have outmost respect for them.
They have a strong believe system, which contradicts my own.

I respect them, because they live their system very consistently. They are more in tune with nature (gods creation) then for instance the Vatican.

They do their own thing, they don't bother other folks.
One of the best traditions they have is the "springgaa" (not sure about correct spelling).

It s the tradition that, on this point in time where youth becomes adults, they are allowed to leave the community for a period of time (a year?) to travel, see the outer world. They are alllowed to do things which are normally forbidden.
(driving cars, partying, drinking, having sexual contact with other people etc.)

After that they are concerned grown adults, capable of their own decisions. They are free to either come back to join the community and live the mormon lifestyle. OR they can choose to turn their backs and live another life.


I'am all for freedom (political, religious, speech etc). To the point where this freedom crosses with my freedom.
In short: Everyone has my respect, even if he/her believes the outmost BS. The moment any group calls for hatred against other groups they loose my respect.

The moment they preach water and drink wine, they lose my respect. Same goes for the group that preaches wine but drinks water.

Everyone is a fellow human being like me. Some are just more gullible, some are victims of their own faith, some are victims to other faiths.

Uncoverging bigottery and showing incoherence in scripture might be perceived as hate. It's not.

Thanks to a (following) post from Gnosisisfaith i realised i mixed up Mormons with Amish. Sorry for that. and thanks to Gnosisisfaith.

a reply to: svetlana84Its not too important, but Mormons(good people I agree) go on a 2 year missionary period when they reach adulthood. It's a good life experience, they don't convert alot of people. But they usually learn another language, and their often recruited into the CIA or FBI because of that and there integrity and trustability. The Amish do the experience of living in "the heathen world" so they can choose what world they want to live in. I don't mean to be that guy who corrects everybody, and if I'm wrong I apologize. But that's what I'read etc.

a reply to: svetlana84I chat online with mormons because they like apocryphal books and I do too. Most christians are scared to read the books that explain so much, because they are not official canon. I call it censorship, and mormons read them, and I respect that. Even though I found the book of Mormon unreadable.

a reply to: Gnosisisfaith

Thanks for the details!

I must admit, i am not a specialist on Mormons - to be honest. Acctually I was thinking about the Amish, but writing about the Mormons. Mea culpa.

So to you and everybody else - correct me if i am wrong.

In the motto of "Deny ignorance".

Oh and I love how "knowledgeable" christians talk about the anti Christ when revelation never once uses that term. I know they mean the Beast, but it's still inaccurate. John speaks of anti christs in his present day. So why is everyone always saying THE anti Christ, when the bible says beast. They are not synonymous terms, and it shows how little they care about being correct. Even pastors do it, so it's not just a case of a mistake. Is it just more catchy or do they actually believe in this never prophecied about figment of the imagination.

a reply to: svetlana84your def not ignorant, I also don't mind being corrected. Or proven wrong, because it means I just learned something.

a reply to: svetlana84

Who is my brother? To be clear, it is not addressing anyone outside of the Christian faith. This passage deals with the church, not a general statement. The point of the bible is that we are to judge, but we do not judge our fellow Christians while ourselves in a state of hypocrisy and ignorance. Three passages in point.

"The spiritual man judges all things, but he himself is not subject to anyone's judgment."

"My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth, and someone should bring him back, he should know that whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins."

"If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over."

This also makes perfect sense. If someone who is a drug addict themselves for example, tells another drug addict to stop doing drugs, it is pure hypocrisy and the one would simply laugh in the face of the other, saying they have no place from which to speak, considering their own life.

It is the same here, we cannot go around pointing out the faults of others in order to help them, until our own lives are in that place from which speaking is not a hypocrisy.

Christianity is a community of people, who uplift one another and help each other as we go through various trials in life, we support one another, and also guide and lead those having a rough patch. These passages have no effect on anyone who is not Christian as they address only the relationship of the Christian to the Christian (errant or not), and no bearing on anyone outside the church whatsoever.

The bible is very clear however, on it's position concerning those who are outside of the church (ie: not Christian):

1 Corinthians 5:12-13; What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked person from among you."

Just thought this might help you some.