a reply to: svetlana84
Freewill verses predestination, difficult subject as both are spoken of in the bible, so lets touch on that a moment then.
When both are talked about:
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together
as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!
This definitely indicates the ability to refuse God. Therefore, it is quite indicative as mankind having freewill.
then we see this:
Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption
as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will
which indicates us having no choice, and no freedom.
But here is the thing, there is a little of both. See, a God who knows all things past, present and future, prior to the future happening knows what
we will, or will not choose, and under what circumstances we would choose it. And he knew all this, prior to even creating us.
So, we have a choice, we at the very least make a choice. It is a choice known to God, before we were created. Here is a good example:
“See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse: the blessing, if you obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you
today, and the curse, if you do not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way that I am commanding you today, to go
after other gods that you have not known.
So, we clearly are given opportunity to choose, but not everyone will choose Him. The ones who do choose Him, He gives the right to be called children
"He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God,
even to those who believe in His name."
The reason for predestination, really is an issue of pride. I cannot look at you and say I deserved salvation, I cannot look at anyone and say I am
better, or deserved more, or did anything right. I made all the wrong choices for so long its not funny. I am not the reason I was offered grace and
mercy. HE is.
He speaks of His people, and his word and his law being for those who do choose Him. We have a choice, but it is not something in our control.
Everything that we do, everything that happens in our lives, leads us here.
" in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."
But some day everyone has a choice to make and what they choose is known to God. There is a middle ground, a path between the two extremes, so that no
one can say salvation was because of themselves, but so all credit goes to God, and not the man, and so we truly understand the power of God.
"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin."