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Black Protesters Storm NYC Restaurants – Target & Harass White People Eating Brunch

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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs





2012 FBI Statistics...



White Crimes...69.3%

Black Crimes... 28.1%

Everyone else makes up the remainder...



Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population

White manage 69% with about 77% of the population





In other words blacks are 2.4 times more likely to commit a crime! Seems pretty much in line with the earlier black vs white populace being shot by police! Ohh the irony

false blacks are 2.4 times more likely to be caught by the police. saying anything else is just assuming other factors not calculated in those stats


Remember too that most violent crime at least is committed intra race. So most white people are murdered by white people and most black people are murdered by other blacks. Unless you are arguing that police don't try to convict whites for murdering whites, your argument has no basis.




posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: deadeyedick


originally posted by: doompornjunkie

a reply to: deadeyedick







I'll bite.. What factors do you propose make blacks more likely to be caught?







Lemme guess. The only thing in your arsenal is the race card so go ahead and throw it down









really?



I do not think there will ever be a stat of total crimes comitted by any group to be correct.

You would need to know the total number of crimes comitted those known and unknown





No, you made a comment about the stats only reflecting those who get caught.



Now answer my question and defend your position instead of diverting!



Again: What factors would lead to more blacks being caught than whites?

wtf
what is your question again and how did my response not cover it?



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated


This is just the murder stats.



Yes it is, isn't it!!!

So tell me how that is pertinent to people saying "crime" & me reiterating the word "crime"...


No one said "murder"...

If they had I wouldn't have shared the "crime" statistics.



Way to embarrass someone!



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: deadeyedick


Well since every crime committed does not end in arrest, I would say it was worded properly.
If you commit ten crimes and I commit one, you are more likely to get caught.
Less crime equals less chances to be arrested.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:50 PM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


2012 FBI Statistics...

White Crimes...69.3%
Black Crimes... 28.1%
Everyone else makes up the remainder...

Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population
White manage 69% with about 77% of the population


In other words blacks are 2.4 times more likely to commit a crime! Seems pretty much in line with the earlier black vs white populace being shot by police! Ohh the irony


ETA: Do you feel that? Yeah that's the truth.. it hurts sometimes


Black's are arrested disproportionately as compared to the crimes they commit. They are also profiled. They are also convicted and sentenced disproportionately.

For the feeble minded, this means that conviction statistics tell half the story.

In apartheid south Africa, blacks and white committed crimes. However, blacks were profiled, arrested, convicted, sentenced disproportionately to their white counterparts. The reason? Racism.

The same issue exists in the US. To look at statistics and not understand this, is a sign of a lack of critical thinking skills



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:50 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: deadeyedick


originally posted by: doompornjunkie

a reply to: deadeyedick

Your response didn't give bias to either side, so theoretically both the same numbers or blacks get away with crimes as whites per capita.

Soooo the statistics should still be spot on. 2.4 times more likely!







I'll bite.. What factors do you propose make blacks more likely to be caught?







Lemme guess. The only thing in your arsenal is the race card so go ahead and throw it down









really?



I do not think there will ever be a stat of total crimes comitted by any group to be correct.

You would need to know the total number of crimes comitted those known and unknown





No, you made a comment about the stats only reflecting those who get caught.



Now answer my question and defend your position instead of diverting!



Again: What factors would lead to more blacks being caught than whites?

wtf
what is your question again and how did my response not cover it?


Your response didn't give bias to either side, so theoretically both the same numbers or blacks get away with crimes as whites per capita.

Soooo the statistics should still be spot on. 2.4 times more likely!
edit on 4-1-2015 by doompornjunkie because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:50 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: HawkeyeNation

Yes I agree...


But all I keep hearing is that this crime takes place in the inner city, sorry the "Ghetto"...


So if people are to assume that about Black people, then we must be fair and say it must be the White people of the Ghetto who are commiting 69% of crime...


So now what population would be in the majority?
Black or White?



All we can truly do is speculate!


Skin color is irrelevant, imo, statistically speaking. It's a non-factor. No causation.

What would be relevant are things like median income, college education, high school diploma, single or married, divorced parents vs married parents, etc.

This entire race variable is a non-issue. Blacks don't commit more crime because of their skin tone.

Cops maybe shoot more blacks because of their bias. That would be hard to prove or disprove, especially when other factors are weighed like the neighborhood.

We can speculate all we want. I would speculate that Tamir Rice doesn't get shot if he was in a suburban neighborhood instead of an inner city, high crime neighborhood. We'll never know, and there is no data that can prove anything one way or the other.

It would be cool if smart people would just acknowledge the facts instead of trying to forward a divisive agenda.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:51 PM
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false blacks are 2.4 times more likely to be caught by the police. saying anything else is just assuming other factors not calculated in those stats


Thats about as disengenous a statement as you can get.........come on man........

If I were black Id consider that an insult to my intelligence



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: spacedog1973

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


2012 FBI Statistics...

White Crimes...69.3%
Black Crimes... 28.1%
Everyone else makes up the remainder...

Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population
White manage 69% with about 77% of the population


In other words blacks are 2.4 times more likely to commit a crime! Seems pretty much in line with the earlier black vs white populace being shot by police! Ohh the irony


ETA: Do you feel that? Yeah that's the truth.. it hurts sometimes


Black's are arrested disproportionately as compared to the crimes they commit. They are also profiled. They are also convicted and sentenced disproportionately.

For the feeble minded, this means that conviction statistics tell half the story.

In apartheid south Africa, blacks and white committed crimes. However, blacks were profiled, arrested, convicted, sentenced disproportionately to their white counterparts. The reason? Racism.

The same issue exists in the US. To look at statistics and not understand this, is a sign of a lack of critical thinking skills


Can you please elaborate?

Which statistics reflect that skin color is causation? Do you realize there's a difference between causation and correlation?

Read this



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: deadeyedick

We're still waiting on a response about your age since you claimed to have a slave owning great-granddad...

Anytime now. Whenever you're ready...

Just dont be offended when no one takes anything else you have to say seriously.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: deadeyedick


originally posted by: doompornjunkie


originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71



a reply to: CharlieSpeirs











2012 FBI Statistics...







White Crimes...69.3%



Black Crimes... 28.1%



Everyone else makes up the remainder...







Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population



White manage 69% with about 77% of the population











In other words blacks are 2.4 times more likely to commit a crime! Seems pretty much in line with the earlier black vs white populace being shot by police! Ohh the irony


false blacks are 2.4 times more likely to be caught by the police. saying anything else is just assuming other factors not calculated in those stats




Remember too that most violent crime at least is committed intra race. So most white people are murdered by white people and most black people are murdered by other blacks. Unless you are arguing that police don't try to convict whites for murdering whites, your argument has no basis.




possibly
i can't say either way cause i have not looked into it.

My point is that all the stats used are based on number of arrest and not total number of crimes comitted. Yes murder seems to be the exception in a catagory of its own. Now that you point it out that would seem to be one of the most accurate ones because nearly all murders are reported where all crimes are not.




posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: the owlbear
a reply to: deadeyedick



We're still waiting on a response about your age since you claimed to have a slave owning great-granddad...



Anytime now. Whenever you're ready...



Just dont be offended when no one takes anything else you have to say seriously.

lol i do not want you to take me serious if you do not want too. the year i was with him was 1979 and he was around 97 then.

i guess i missed that post. i never made the claim of any legal ownership but noted that the residue of actions in his youth was still prevelant when i was a boy so much so that i was givin the same ackward respect by blacks that i was forced to give my elders. it went beyond manners cause i could pick up on the eyes and emotions. I was raised listening to a heavy dose of racial talk includins stories of him putting the dogs loose on some blacks he had treed for nearly 3 days with no food or water among many other stories of things that make people cringe.
edit on 4-1-2015 by deadeyedick because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: Jamie1


This entire race variable is a non-issue. Blacks don't commit more crime because of their skin tone.



I'm with you on that to be honest.


I've only responded to people alluding to the perceived relevance of colour...


Because of some of the generalisations & sweeping statements made this thread is completely off topic in the last few pages & I wouldn't be surprised if every post in the last few pages was removed.


Apologies if I played a part in the drift.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Thanks for the link, I would find it invigorating to be in that restaurant. Wouldn't bother me at all. If anyone read it, you would see it was a peaceful demonstration by a very small group of people.

#of inmates percentage
Black 79,835 37.4%
White 126,325 59.2%

US Population 2013: 316,128,839
Black 13.2% 41,729,006.7
White 77.7% 245,632,108

Percentage of Black people incarcerated: 0.001913178 = 0.19%

Percentage of White people incarcerated: 0.0005142854 = 0.05%

For those you think Black people don't get thrown in jail 3.8 times more than white people, well the numbers don't lie.

Source

Source 2



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: spacedog1973


We should all start by educating ourselves and maybe the black community can help by pushing more african americans to join the police force. White cops should not be policing black neighborhoods.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: the owlbear
a reply to: deadeyedick



We're still waiting on a response about your age since you claimed to have a slave owning great-granddad...



Anytime now. Whenever you're ready...



Just dont be offended when no one takes anything else you have to say seriously.

lol i do not want you to take me serious if you do not want too. the year i was with him was 1979 and he was around 97 then.



Then he was born at least twenty years after slavery was abolished and could not have owned slaves.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Thanks for the link, I would find it invigorating to be in that restaurant. Wouldn't bother me at all. If anyone read it, you would see it was a peaceful demonstration by a very small group of people.

#of inmates percentage
Black 79,835 37.4%
White 126,325 59.2%

US Population 2013: 316,128,839
Black 13.2% 41,729,006.7
White 77.7% 245,632,108

Percentage of Black people incarcerated: 0.001913178 = 0.19%

Percentage of White people incarcerated: 0.0005142854 = 0.05%

For those you think Black people don't get thrown in jail 3.8 times more than white people, well the numbers don't lie.

Source

Source 2


Please refer to Jamie1's posts about causation and correlation... or take a stats class... please!



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 09:02 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71

originally posted by: deadeyedick


originally posted by: the owlbear

a reply to: deadeyedick







We're still waiting on a response about your age since you claimed to have a slave owning great-granddad...







Anytime now. Whenever you're ready...







Just dont be offended when no one takes anything else you have to say seriously.


lol i do not want you to take me serious if you do not want too. the year i was with him was 1979 and he was around 97 then.






Then he was born at least twenty years after slavery was abolished and could not have owned slaves.

that is just legal terms and do not reflect the overall reality of those times back then.

eta his ownership was never challenged until late in his life.
edit on 4-1-2015 by deadeyedick because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: spacedog1973


We should all start by educating ourselves and maybe the black community can help by pushing more african americans to join the police force. White cops should not be policing black neighborhoods.



Maybe we need more Martin Luther kings and fewer al sharptons. He's not doing blacks any favors. MLK was smart, articulate and a brave visionary. Sharpton is a race bating fear monger.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask





false blacks are 2.4 times more likely to be caught by the police. saying anything else is just assuming other factors not calculated in those stats





Thats about as disengenous a statement as you can get.........come on man........



If I were black Id consider that an insult to my intelligence

why should you have to be a certain color to care?

the truth i have said over and over is no one knows how many crimes are committed everyday.

the stats go by total arrest and if a police force directs their car to certain areas everyday then thy will get more arrest in that area. As stated by others murder is final and solved murder cases would be the best place to gather stats.



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