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Black Protesters Storm NYC Restaurants – Target & Harass White People Eating Brunch

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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

african americans account for 14% of the population




posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: deadeyedick

I just see the same level of "unity" among white people shortly after the end of the Civil War with the creation of groups like the KKK. People like the protestors in the OP are just fueling racism, not trying to end it.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: criticalhit
Nobody will like this but in truth this entire issue is a load of hooey perpetuated by some of the worst elements in the Black community.

Here is the Truth...

Over the last 20 years one of the most striking demographic changes in America has been the movement of African Americans into the suburbs and in the direction of the South, the reality is that Half of the African American population now lives in just 10 states and is Suburban having comfortably integrated into Caucasian communities or their own relatively comfortable if not affluent suburbs

What does this mean?

It means for the upwardly mobile half (and lets be honest half of any group of people is the stupid half) of the African community life has never been better, these communities aren't seeing Black people get shot at any rate different than Whites, the income is decent and in national norms, the education is good and racism which exists has largely been reduced to (justly) getting annoyed if a store clerk watches a guy who makes 60 G a year thinking he's a shoplifter... the gap in arrest rates vs Caucasians in these communities is still a bit higher but a couple of percent most of these African Americans don't speak or act very different than their white counter parts and fit in just fine...

Then there is the ghetto, the African Americans that didn't "Black flight" the inner cities over the last 20 years, the crime differential is massive compared to their suburban African American counter parts, the education available, rate of even voting is incredibly low and the neighborhoods are run over by drug dealers which leads to extreme police behavior

But as a fact, there are now 2 Black Americas... The integrated suburban Black America and the isolated by Choice very often Inner city (which has demographically declined substantially)

Inner city African Americans have essentially lost much of the educated base of the community and income that came along with it, there is little hope in what remains of these communities the young male inhabitants are very often violent and dangerous which further isolates those areas again and leaves the police on edge

It's just not 1989, suburban African Americans while they stand against racism are often as far removed (half) from these conditions as their Caucasian counter parts

It's not going to get better either, just worse... That was the mantra for decades "get out of the ghetto" and realistically Half of African Americans who had the brains the ethics and chutzpah did... What was left behind were the more dysfunctional families the addicts those who didn't choose a route of education very often.. but mainly this round of inner city strife wasn't about "White flight" and racism which made life difficult in the past, this round was and is called "Black Flight" and there is no one to blame, the upwardly mobile Black population moved on no one can blame them for that and blaming white people is just as foolish





Great insights. I had a friend who was black, and a stock broker. He lived in the 'hood as he called it because he felt a duty to lead by example, and be a real leader, not just talk about it. He lived there for at least 20 years before we lost touch.

He raised his family there, but it was not easy. He had bullets hit his house more than once.

He wasn't concerned about racism. He was concerned about the "knuckleheads" playing "thug."

Great, great great man. Love him.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: JDmOKI

Right...!

I'm aware...


But you'll need to elaborate if you want me to know what you mean by that.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
2012 FBI Statistics...

White Crimes...69.3%
Black Crimes... 28.1%
Everyone else makes up the remainder...



So with that in Mind...why do people keep saying "Black people commit more crime"?


Deny Ignorance...
Take off the White Hood & Robe before you log in to ATS is my advice.


If you were to prorate the number of African Americans to be equal of whites in America then that number would jump substantially. Given there are 245million whites and 45 million african americans. The number would more than double the total for whites.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:25 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Their porpotional percentage represenation in the demographics is far exceed by their crime commission percentage while whites are nearly in line with their demographic split.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


2012 FBI Statistics...

White Crimes...69.3%
Black Crimes... 28.1%
Everyone else makes up the remainder...

Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population
White manage 69% with about 77% of the population



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
These statistics seem off to me, but I don't know?? This is according to that FBI site I posted. I found a better site earlier in the week, but I can no longer find it. Even in those stats, though the ratio between whites & blacks committing crimes was not such a wide gap as this FBI stat chart, it still said whites were a higher ratio....



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: HawkeyeNation

Yes I agree...


But all I keep hearing is that this crime takes place in the inner city, sorry the "Ghetto"...


So if people are to assume that about Black people, then we must be fair and say it must be the White people of the Ghetto who are commiting 69% of crime...


So now what population would be in the majority?
Black or White?



All we can truly do is speculate!


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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs


2012 FBI Statistics...

White Crimes...69.3%
Black Crimes... 28.1%
Everyone else makes up the remainder...

Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population
White manage 69% with about 77% of the population


In other words blacks are 2.4 times more likely to commit a crime! Seems pretty much in line with the earlier black vs white populace being shot by police! Ohh the irony


ETA: Do you feel that? Yeah that's the truth.. it hurts sometimes

edit on 4-1-2015 by doompornjunkie because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs



african americans account for 14% of the population

you would still have to prove that blacks are not just targeted more by police and that results in more arrest. Like i said only god and santa knows exactly how many crimes are comitted. The stats come from the number of arrest not the number of crimes comitted. The fact is that blacks are stopped far more often than any others. One can assume they are comitting the same amount of crime but are profiled more often just as east as assuming that they are comitting more crime.

so we can say for sure that statically blacks are arrested at a higher % than others but we need many more factors to accuratly state anything else as fact. All the rest is just asssumptions.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:32 PM
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Although it seems some are trying (less than a fraction of a percent), there will never be a race war...

Why? Because most of us actually DO have common sense.

So race war this and race war that... but there isn't and won't be a race war... no matter who or how many try to instigate.

Carry on.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
You have to remember that we are not that far removed from Jim Crow. My parents were part of the civil rights generation. They grew up drinking out of "colored" water fountains. This country has literally gone from brutal racism and segregation to having a black President in the span of barely two generations.

In some ways the black community is still scarred. However, I believe the black community has not moved forward because of liberal progressive politics that emphasized victimhood.

In fact, I would say the main reason we see these racial issues coming from the black community is because the civil rights era was too successful. We've made so much progress on the racial front that I think it actually has caused the black community to not recognize how far we've come. This is why younger generations of blacks act as if they are oppressed by BS "microaggressions" and not really understanding the what real racism looks like.

As a black man, yes I've been slighted. However, I'd never act like I experienced the same level of discrimination and blatant racism that my parents and grandparents endured. It isn't even close. As a 40+ year old black man, I've never been told to go to the back of the bus. Never received a letter from the Klan warning me not to go to certain schools like my father did. Never seen someone lynched.

The black community and liberals NEED racism because without it we would then be forced to look inward at our own failings.


You made me realize something.... Martin Luther King's dream.

Here on ATS, we can judge each other's ideas and thoughts, and all benefit from learning from each other.

The fact that you even mention that you're black is an after thought. I don't think anybody here cares about skin color. In another generation, even with what's going on now, we'll be even better.

I am very grateful for all the men and woman, black and white, that had the courage to change things for the better - risking everything for what was right.

Even the restaurant thing, as counterproductive as it might be, shows people doing SOMETHING to try to make things better. Even if it seems stupid, I'd rather see that than people sitting on their asses watching tv and just complaining.

Respect.



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs





2012 FBI Statistics...



White Crimes...69.3%

Black Crimes... 28.1%

Everyone else makes up the remainder...



Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population

White manage 69% with about 77% of the population





In other words blacks are 2.4 times more likely to commit a crime! Seems pretty much in line with the earlier black vs white populace being shot by police! Ohh the irony

false blacks are 2.4 times more likely to be caught by the police. saying anything else is just assuming other factors not calculated in those stats



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: deadeyedick

I'll bite.. What factors do you propose make blacks more likely to be caught?

Lemme guess. The only thing in your arsenal is the race card so go ahead and throw it down




posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Edumakated

Embarrass me?


How are you gonna do that when it is written in the FBI.gov link about 4 posts above mine?


But go ahead...
"Embarrass me"!!!



Since you must like punishment.

FBI 2013 Murder Stats

This is just the murder stats. To summarize... in 2013, there were 12,253 murders. More than half the murder victims were black for a total 6,261. As some other poster mentioned, blacks are only about 14% of the population. In short, 14% of the population is responsible for more than half the murders. To be more specific, most of the perpetrators are young black men in their 20s. Roughly about 4% of the population. It should be pretty obvious why cops are why cops are on edge when encountering young black males in the ghetto.


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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs





2012 FBI Statistics...



White Crimes...69.3%

Black Crimes... 28.1%

Everyone else makes up the remainder...



Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population

White manage 69% with about 77% of the population





In other words blacks are 2.4 times more likely to commit a crime! Seems pretty much in line with the earlier black vs white populace being shot by police! Ohh the irony

false blacks are 2.4 times more likely to be caught by the police. saying anything else is just assuming other factors not calculated in those stats




People that like to drive their cars fast get more speeding tickets than people that drive at the speed limit.

Even adding a 30% margin for "other factors" doesn't explain the large swing in percentages.
edit on 4-1-2015 by Hoosierdaddy71 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie
a reply to: deadeyedick



I'll bite.. What factors do you propose make blacks more likely to be caught?



Lemme guess. The only thing in your arsenal is the race card so go ahead and throw it down




really?

I do not think there will ever be a stat of total crimes comitted by any group to be correct.
You would need to know the total number of crimes comitted those known and unknown



posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: doompornjunkie
a reply to: deadeyedick



I'll bite.. What factors do you propose make blacks more likely to be caught?



Lemme guess. The only thing in your arsenal is the race card so go ahead and throw it down




really?

I do not think there will ever be a stat of total crimes comitted by any group to be correct.
You would need to know the total number of crimes comitted those known and unknown


No, you made a comment about the stats only reflecting those who get caught.

Now answer my question and defend your position instead of diverting!

Again: What factors would lead to more blacks being caught than whites?
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posted on Jan, 4 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71

originally posted by: deadeyedick


originally posted by: doompornjunkie


originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71



a reply to: CharlieSpeirs











2012 FBI Statistics...







White Crimes...69.3%



Black Crimes... 28.1%



Everyone else makes up the remainder...







Blacks manage to make up 28% of the crime with about 13% of the population



White manage 69% with about 77% of the population











In other words blacks are 2.4 times more likely to commit a crime! Seems pretty much in line with the earlier black vs white populace being shot by police! Ohh the irony


false blacks are 2.4 times more likely to be caught by the police. saying anything else is just assuming other factors not calculated in those stats








People that like to drive their cars fast get more speeding tickets than people that drive at the speed limit.



Even adding a 30% margin for "other factors" doesn't explain the large swing in percentages.

False again
The correct wording would be that "some people" Your wording assumes that every speeder is caught.




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