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FATIMA Connected Prophecies .................... and other Fatima based observations.

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posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 10:37 PM
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The last and final one is... America will be a Communist country. That is the sign for the end of the world. The Pope never released that one. But bieng locked up in a nunary with a code of silence must of made her mad enough to tell every nun what the last prophecy was.




posted on Oct, 25 2015 @ 07:54 PM
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Synod over.
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Fatima Fact portrayed as fiction. Fact-tion. By Malachi Martin.

(published 1998)

pages 546-547 :
"I don't know what's in the envelope, Giustino!"...
"But I'll tell you what I do know.
I know that each of the two Popes who preceded the present Holy Father read it's contents and left it to its immediate successor, so its (envelope with Third Secret) been opened and resealed. I know the envelope carries two papal inscriptions. The first, written by the old Pope, reserved the envelope "For Our Successor on the Throne of Peter." The Second papal inscription written by the September Pope says its contents concern "the condition of Holy Mother Church after June 29, 1963 (not a date to be taken literally, it is the fictional date of the enthronement)."
...Gladstone took a single sheet of paper from his pocket and laid it on Lucadamo's desk..."if you think I've made a mistake or missed something, you can check it against your copy of the diary."
The security chief leaned forward to study the paper. "...September 28, 1978: Long conversation with Pp (Pope) about envelope left by immediate predecessor. Agrees no pope will be able to govern Church through Vatican until enthronement undone. Pp will do what he can, but resealed envelope with second inscription, 'Concerning the condition of Holy Mother Church after June 29, 1963.' "


June 29, 1963 is the fictional date mentioned earlier in the book for the "enthronement"
The "enthronement" pertains to anti-Pp gaining the throne.
The prophecy here ("'Concerning the condition of Holy Mother Church after June 29, 1963:.'..no pope will be able to govern Church through Vatican until enthronement undone.") regards the one anti-Pp and the governing of the global Church through the Vatican.

That is...Curses from every direction ensue from the attempts to control the global Church through the Vatican by the one "enthroned." It pertains to the person that becomes Pope after being involved in a successful plot to unseat a Pope.


It seems to me that because of such a prophecy and because of a difference of opinion in the future direction of the Church, e.p. Benedict XVI has threatened schism behind the scenes if Pope Francis (the who am I to judge, Pope) attempts to make big changes (at the wrong time). Whether or not the proper time for these prophecies is now or latter, people have their own opinion. I prefer latter.

Pope Francis did not get what he really wanted out of this Synod. It was the prophecy effect. Pope Francis should be given a chance to make immediate changes in the Church (which is actually a moment to determine his innocence (or guilt) of involvement in any perceived far fetched plot to cause Benedict XVI to resign). Pope Francis should be given a chance to make changes in the Church to see whether or not the curses immediately come from every direction, which would then determine the innocence or lack of innocence involving potential schemes mentioned in prophecy).



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This is likely the only post from me in reaction to the Synod and then back to quite and being on the verge of complete and total abandonment of this thread.

Please don't aim any posts directly towards me, in attempt to provoke further replies. (Hi 2012newstart)
Thanks.
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posted on Oct, 26 2015 @ 08:37 AM
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HUGE NEXT DAY POSTING REGRET.

I am conspirist conspiracy nut that see's unreasonably what I want to see.

Sick, sick, sick, sick.

Puke.

Moderators: Boot me from the forum now.



posted on Nov, 5 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Phantomfire707

Hopi Prophecy is similar, the sky will turn blood red for three nights is the final sign. The stars will look like they are bleeding, and don't look at the sky on those nights. In fact the closing of the fifth world (the current world) would begin when the last pure ceremonial Hopi priest died (This happened around 2000) and would begin by the warrior twins standing on the poles lifting their feet and releasing the coiled serpent (ice cap water) This would cleanse the earth and punish the wicked. About 6 months after he died the scientist community released the conclusion that the north pole would melt and now we see the Antarctic is going to melt and raise sea levels by at least 10 feet.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: Phantomfire707 That very similar to what happened in Garabandal, there is something suppose to happen there soon.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: maxzen2004
a reply to: Phantomfire707 That very similar to what happened in Garabandal, there is something suppose to happen there soon.



Garabandal is a fraud and has been condemned by the church,

Joey Lomangino was supposed to get 'new eyes' it was prophesied by one of the girls. Sadly he died a blind and very old man.

This is just one of the many failings of Garabandal. Nothing will ever come of the prophesies from that place.



posted on Nov, 15 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: markosity1973

I agree, insofar taking them literally, but my experience is that prophecies have a knack of coming true in unexpected, but still accurate ways.



posted on Nov, 16 2015 @ 08:11 AM
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The three children of Fatima
An angel gave to them a vision
And spoke of three great wars

The last war the Pope was lead to the top of the hill and crucified by soiders
And people where taken to the top of the hill
To denounce the Catholic Church
And those who refused were killed
And the angels cried with them at the top of the hill

Now listen to the words of Nostradamus

You nearest Roman ( the Pope ) do not go where two rivers Water
Lyon

An event in Egypt will cause Russia to invade
Europe and when the Russian leader is poisoned or an attempt is made
Suddenly Russia will invade

There will be 13 Russian soilders hidding
In the woods in southern France and the Pope will leave Rome to escape the invading army
He will go by boat to southern France

The British leader will howl all night
When the Pope changes countries

Where he will be captured by the 13 soilders
One of them will not want to kill him

They will lead him to the top of a hill near Lyon
Where they will laugh and mock him before they kill him
This pope will be lead to his death by the Council because of his too good attitude
His death is unjust and was organised.

Nothing worse could ever have happened
To the throne of Saint Peter

The comet Catalina has just left the sun
And soon will pass our skies

For seven days it will shine like a star
2 sun's will be seen in the sky
This is the omen that Jesus spoke of
This is the great burning star

the last night the comet is seen
The Pope will die.

We are so close

The comet is on its way

Debris in the tail of the comet will bombard the earth
The comet debris will poison the oceans and kill most of the sea life and the meteors will burn most of the trees and forests and all the land animals will die
Man will starve
And epidemics will wipe out many people


The white plague the kings evil
More then two thirds of mankind shall perish

Only the kings of France can cure this evil



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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Phantom and all, the light show projected on St Peter's basilica gives a new fresh start of the Vatican staff (that appears to follow the pope's initiatives now) to make the change they talked so much until now. Not the images of lions and birds that we know of National Geographic and other channels with much better quality, BUT the fact that the Roman church finally stands up for the entire planet to save it. Hopefully it is the beginning not the end of those efforts.

What is your intake on it?



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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Why Did the Pope call a year of Mercy at this time?


What is the difference between Mercy and Repentance?


What does the Year of Mercy have to do with Prophecy(Fatima)?





"Though your sins are like scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson,
they shall be like wool."




Once upon a time the message of God was limited to the people of Israel.
Today, YOU and I are the rebellious children of God.


Hear me, you heavens! Listen, earth!
For the Lord has spoken:
“I reared children and brought them up,
but they have rebelled against me.
3 The ox knows its master,
the donkey its owner’s manger,
but [my people] does not know,
my people do not understand.”
4 Woe to the sinful nation,
a people whose guilt is great,
a brood of evildoers,
children given to corruption!
They have forsaken the Lord;
they have spurned the Holy One of Israel
and turned their backs on him.
5. Your whole head is injured,
your whole heart afflicted.
6 From the sole of your foot to the top of your head
there is no soundness—
7 Your country is desolate,
your cities burned with fire;
your fields are being stripped by foreigners
right before you,


10 Hear the word of the Lord,
you rulers of Sodom;
listen to the instruction of our God,
you people of Gomorrah!
11 “The multitude of your sacrifices—
what are they to me?” says the Lord.
“I have more than enough of burnt offerings,
of rams and the fat of fattened animals;
I have no pleasure
in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats (and fasting with a false heart).
13 Stop bringing meaningless offerings!
Your incense is detestable to me.
New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations—
I cannot bear your worthless assemblies.
14 Your New Moon feasts and your appointed festivals
I hate with all my being.
They have become a burden to me;
I am weary of bearing them.
15 When you spread out your hands in prayer,
I hide my eyes from you;
even when you offer many prayers,
I am not listening.

Your hands are full of blood!
16 Wash and make yourselves clean.
Take your evil deeds out of my sight;
stop doing wrong.

17 Learn to do right; seek justice.
Defend the oppressed.
Take up the cause of the fatherless;
plead the case of the widow.
18 “Come now, let us settle the matter,”
says the Lord.
Though your sins are like scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson,
they shall be like wool.

For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.

21 See how the faithful city (Israel and now modern Rome)
has become a prostitute!
(Long ago) She once was full of justice;
righteousness used to dwell in her—
but now murderers!
22 Your silver has become dross,
your choice wine is diluted with water.
23 Your rulers are rebels,
partners with thieves;
they all love bribes
and chase after gifts.
They do not defend the cause of the fatherless;
the widow’s case does not come before them.
24 Therefore the Lord, the Lord Almighty,
the Mighty One of Israel, declares:
“Ah! I will vent my wrath on my foes
and avenge myself on my enemies.
25 I will turn my hand against you;
I will thoroughly purge away your dross
and remove all your impurities.
28 Rebels and sinners will both be broken,
and those who forsake the Lord will perish." - ISAIAH CHAPTER ONE



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1. Shout it aloud, do not hold back.
Raise your voice like a trumpet.
Declare to my people their rebellion
and to the descendants of Jacob their sins.
2 For day after day they seek me out;
they seem eager to know my ways,
as if they were a nation that does what is right
and has not forsaken the commands of its God.
They ask me for just decisions
and seem eager for God to come near them.
3 ‘Why have we fasted,’ they say,
‘and you have not seen it?

Why have we humbled ourselves,
and you have not noticed?’
“Yet on the day of your fasting, you do as you please
and exploit all your workers.
4 Your fasting ends in quarreling and strife,
and in striking each other with wicked fists.
You cannot fast as you do today
and expect your voice to be heard on high.
5 Is this the kind of fast I have chosen,
ONLY a day for people to humble themselves?
Is it ONLY for bowing one’s head like a reed
and for lying in sackcloth and ashes?
Is that what you call a (GOOD) fast,
a day acceptable to the Lord?


“Is not this the kind of (TRUE) fasting I have chosen:
to loose the chains of injustice
and untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free
and break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your food with the hungry
and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter—
when you see the naked, to clothe them,
and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?
8 Then your light will break forth like the dawn,
and your healing will quickly appear;
then your righteousness will go before you,
and the glory of the Lord will be your rear guard.
9 Then you will call, and the Lord will answer;
you will cry for help, and he will say: Here am I.
(but that is not all you must do):
“If you do away with the yoke of oppression,
with the pointing finger and malicious talk,
10 and if you spend yourselves in behalf of the hungry
and satisfy the needs of the oppressed,
then your light will rise in the darkness,
and your night will become like the noonday.

(and that is not all to do):
13 “If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath
and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight
and the Lord’s holy day honorable,
and if you honor it by not going your own way
and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,
14 then you will find your joy in the Lord,
and I will cause you to ride in triumph on the heights of the land
and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob.”
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken. - ISAIAH CHAPTER FIFTY-EIGHT


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1. “Go up and down the streets of [the city] ,
look around and consider,
search through her squares.
If you can find but one person
who deals honestly and seeks the truth,
I will forgive this city.
2 Although they say, ‘As surely as the Lord lives,’
still they are swearing falsely.”
3 Lord, do not your eyes look for truth?
You struck them, but they felt no pain;
you crushed them, but they refused correction.
They made their faces harder than stone
and refused to repent.
4 I thought, “These are only the poor;
they are foolish,
for they do not know the way of the Lord,
the requirements of their God.
5 So I will go to the leaders
and speak to them;

surely they know the way of the Lord,
the requirements of their God.”
But with one accord they too had broken off the yoke
and torn off the bonds." - JEREMIAH CHAPTER FIVE

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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 08:11 PM
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'Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.'

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The first commandment is superior to the second commandment,
yet the second commandment is essential to the first commandment.

The ultimate goal is to satisfy both commandments completely, if possible.


The second commandment pertains to either:
the people that cross your path,
and/or people situated nearby,
and/or people in area's of high need at a greater distance from your home. ie: At the peripheral.


A person can serve people at the peripheral, go home and be a jerk to people at home and at work.


Serving God through serving others is actually a major cleansing of the heart and cleansing of the mind in regards to relating to and treating other people.

If your heart and mind are selfish and angry, your external behavior with others is selfish and angry, therefore you need to cleanse the heart and mind of the negative behavior. It is not an external matter, it is a matter of the heart/mind.

When God says "Be kind to other people" it is actually an instruction to cleanse your heart of unkindness.


But oh...How difficult for many, it seems to be, to stop oneself from criticizing or insulting another person. How difficult to avoid lying to another person, how difficult to share or give away a possession to another person, to give another person some of "our time." Even to merely speak to certain persons.



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What we have been given are two commandments that sum up all the Law and all the Prophets.

Under the second commandment(to "Love your neighbor as yourself") the goal is to cleanse the heart and mind in ways that allow us to:
Speak kindly to others.
Physically help others.
Avoid yelling, insulting, unduly criticizing others.
Giving Time to others.
Avoid gossiping about another.

Overcoming judgement of other people. (Judgments cause people to: withdraw kind behavior, to insult the other, to perceive oneself as superior over the one judged. There are various aspects that people will perform internal judgments against persons. For instance, pretty people often judge non-pretty people, and non-pretty people judge pretty people negatively. Particularly strong can be religious people judging those deemed as sinners, and sinners judging religious people.

What does it mean to judge: it is to deem a person as unworthy of our kindness and attention, to judge is to ratify in our hearts that the other person is inferior to us.

It is quite a scene when a person is religious in the ways that represent the "washing of the outside of the cup" and such a person judges another for their sins, when in fact they both stand judged by God as sinners.

Of course I am not referring to the giving of a notice that someone or something is sinful. But such a notification should not come from ego, anger, self-deception, or a misguided superiority.)

to continue

the second commandment is the cleansing of the heart and mind in ways that allow us:
to Forgive other people.
to Share with and give other people some of our possessions and money.
to be patient with others.
to lend an ear to listen to other people.
to let others go first, and let others have the better option/position.


Perhaps also: helping others to laugh, being sympathetic, being positive with people.

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In revelations, it states that the lukewarm are spewed out.

Most of the time so far, in fact, I have indeed been lukewarm, and I have been spewed out....repeatedly.

When you are spewed out, you belong to the ego, you belong to the selfishness, you belong to the gossip, and to the criticizing and insults of others, you belong to the laziness, you belong to the judgments against others, you belong to the tempers and impure desires. Even belonging to negativity.

I am lazy, I am weakness, I think impure nasty thoughts, I am selfish, I am gossipy, I criticize and insult others, I judge others, and have a temper.

When I step closer to God, that starts to change.


And that brings us to the first commandment:
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."

I have tried to overcome the criticizing of others, and tried to overcome numerous divinely UNapproved habits. It does not work with half speed. It does not work with half a heart. You have to up the Love of God, up the effort to 80% (to 100%).

Try to overcome alcohol addiction with half an effort, with half your heart. Success with half zeal does not happen. God does not want half an effort. He wants more. Otherwise you get spewed out and belong to the world.

I have spent more than 90% of the time belonging to the world. Cleansing the heart takes effort, it takes Loving your God with All your heart. (80% at least). The other 10% of the time, I push forward and learn, and have repeatedly experienced the gentle breeze of prayer at the decisive moment when sin tries to bubble up from within.


To "Love your God" what does that mean and how do you do it?

To Love your God, to Love your enemy....strange concept.

I do not think Love is a feeling, I think it is a behavior. I might have bad feelings towards an enemy so how please tell me can I feel warm gentle love towards an enemy? Perhaps the feeling of love comes latter. Perhaps love is a behavior rather than a feeling.

To love your enemy is to feed your enemy when he is hungry, it is to show kindness towards your enemy, it is to avoid insulting your enemy (etc). It is God's way. It is "THE WAY." It is about cleansing the heart and mind. Difficult indeed. Perhaps it gets much easier with perseverance and wisdom?

To Love God....with all your heart, mind, soul....

Again, the first commandment is more important than the second commandment, but the second commandment is essential to the first.

Without the first commandment, a person on a deserted island without a neighbor to love would not be able to serve God.

If to love the neighbor was all that was, then Jesus would not have divided the golden rule into two commandments, he would have simply revealed the second command as the one and only command. Therefore the first commandment is distinctly different from the second commandment.

To Love God...with all your heart, mind, soul....

It is to befriend God, it is to come close to God, it is to not turn away from God.

And what do we do to Love God with ALL our hearts, mind, and soul. We don't succeed, but we try to give God 75..80..85 percent.

How do we obey the first commandment?

We befriend God and come close to God by:

1. Prayer. Frequent Prayer.
2. Honesty to ourselves and honesty to God.
3. we try to cleanse our hearts and thoughts further (in ways that do not involve other people).
4. At times, we strike our chest and cry out to God for forgiveness because we have moved away from Him (sin creates distance).
5. we go the extra mile to serve God, by fasting of the desires of the flesh. (in reparation for our sins, and reparation for the sins of others).
etc.

There it is, the two commandments, representing the whole Law, and all the prophets.
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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 08:53 PM
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"Though your sins are like scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they are red as crimson,
they shall be like wool."



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 11:12 PM
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What is the year of mercy so much more different than the jubilee year 2000?
Let those who are in charge make the difference visible and sooner! All the rest are words that we hear for 2000+ years and that never brought the expected kingdom of peace, justice and well being.


What year f mercy when there is no mercy at all, be it in the political arena, in the religious, or most of all on the personal level? Where are the new tech to assure the poorest will have today their food, and the sick ones, their medicines? Instead we are talking of expensive insurances called "new affordable healthcare plan". This is demagogy that the communists did it better, with more to give to the people.
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 01:21 AM
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I shortened my long post in the last minute available for edit. I already posted a new thread www.abovetopsecret.com... "Rome chief exorcist Fr. Gabriele Amorth expects Fatima prophecy in 5 months or less" that should be called instead: " Rome chief exorcist Fr. Gabriele Amorth expects Fatima prophecy any day after October 2015". I invite you to read and comment there. That is a breaking news for the Fatima community that I only recently learned about. Amorth is much more crdible than a dozen of cardinals, so to speak. And may be that is the last signal to pope Francis as well, who called himself "Fatima pope".



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 04:11 PM
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I know that Pope Francis wanted me to go to Rome as the "Petrus Romanus" to support his modern agenda. I told them I would not leave my close friend as he had nobody else. And because it is difficult for me to make new friends.


Just now, I found out that my friend Scott had died. His Father called me to inform me of Scott's death, Scott died on January 13.

I had suspected in the last year that they would kill him.

He was probably killed by the order of Pope Francis in attempt to get me to do what they want from me.

Father Gruner was also probably killed by the order of Pope Francis.

Pope Francis is the first modern Pope.

The Fatima Secret calls for the overthrow of the anti-Pope.



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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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According to Malachi Martin's understanding of prophecy, an anti-Pope will reach the top.

On the day that pope Francis announced his 2017 trip to Fatima, a great earthquake shook the top of the earth, the peak, the highest point...the earthquake shook Mount Everest. It happened on the same day.

He announced the trip to Fatima shortly after the earth shook.






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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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Mount Everest is earth's highest mountain.

"“Mount Everest is called the world's highest mountain because it has the highest elevation above sea level. We could also say that it has the "highest altitude". The peak of Mount Everest is 8,850 meters (29,035 feet) above sea level. No other mountain on Earth has a higher altitude.”


The earthquake shoke Mount Everest / Nepal on April 25, 2015




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posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: Phantomfire707
I know that Pope Francis wanted me to go to Rome as the "Petrus Romanus" to support his modern agenda. I told them I would not leave my close friend as he had nobody else. And because it is difficult for me to make new friends.


Just now, I found out that my friend Scott had died. His Father called me to inform me of Scott's death, Scott died on January 13.

I had suspected in the last year that they would kill him.

He was probably killed by the order of Pope Francis in attempt to get me to do what they want from me.

Father Gruner was also probably killed by the order of Pope Francis.

Pope Francis is the first modern Pope.

The Fatima Secret calls for the overthrow of the anti-Pope.





posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 05:00 PM
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Pope Francis speeds forward with his modernist agenda, and he placed a self imposed deadline of the end of the Year of Mercy.



posted on Jan, 20 2016 @ 05:03 PM
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You are not allowed to oppose Pope Francis in any significant way, like Father Gruner did.




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