FATIMA Connected Prophecies .................... and other Fatima based observations.

The atmosphere could not possibly be a spirit.....yet you considered conversion, and your only records for conversion were personal spirit memories.

The atmosphere is an atmosphere....the atmosphere owns its own scientific review of its data.

A microbe exists in the atmospheric condition....and owns its own data.....as does the review of evolution of spirit.

Remove each species as if they no longer exist....and the atmosphere still exists without the consideration of life.

We do not exist on Earth because of spirit....we exist on Earth because our parents kept having sexual procreation, and the species survived. We only survive in the atmospheric condition.

If all humans died...the animals would still live with no presence of a consciousness making statements about how the species were created. How could you know how they were created....you were not present before they were created....yet your mind considers that you are.....why?

Because your spirit knows that it exists before all of creation, because it still exists. If it did not, then your consciousness as the information that applies to the conscious self would also be different. You would not be able to make those considerations...for the awareness simply would not exist.

You live in an atmosphere that supports your life....yet if you died...the atmosphere still exists and does not create your presence...therefore it does not create your spirit. Your own occult information is fake/false.

You do not own the atmosphere.

You say the atmosphere comes before human life as if it precedes human life from out of space as a fallen angel spirit radiation to life of a human being....yet this if false reckoning.

The spirit that precedes your own, as you already identified is an animal.....not a fallen hell's angel.

You then considered the evolution as if human life is a microbe...yet a microbe exists as a microbe, not as a human life.

If you died the microbe still exists...it does not suddenly mutate and turn into a human life.

You therefore prove to your own persons that you never believed in the higher spirit origin....only your own personal self review as the creator/destroyer. Your information attests to this review. Therefore our higher brother's awareness has always fought your occultists reviews and all that you have done is murdered him, for not agreeing that you are the all powerful being....which is your own personal considerations.

Our real spiritual family have been trying to teach the spiritual truths that our spirit manifested out of origin light that still exists. You never believed that it existed after your own choices and attacks upon your own self....yet it proves that it does.

Fatima is only a realized self human witness to the loss of our own atmospheric medium and then cellular death....an attack of the human spirit. Removal of the Medium is not a female spirit....the reflection is female because our brother who caused our spiritual reflections, had reflected upon the female to try to convert his own personal male body.

This is how the image was recorded as a thought.....not a presence.

It is a pity there isn't a large Fatima discussion, in the terms of positive, meaningfull, critical analysis. As I browse thru internet, I find quite many views on the Great Warning prophecy that give dates of 2016 and 2017. But let not forget they or similar writers gave dates of 2015, 2012, 2000. Seems those who still believe catholic prophecy (being catholics or not themselves) find it more coherent in prophecy other than Fatima (because Fatima is still a secret). Thus new prophecies, some of which ongoing (as in Brazil) come to substitute the vacuum of the absence of coherent, profound discussion on Fatima .

There were always failed expectations of a Great Warning, of protestant estimations of end times, and failed to materialize promises of Ashtar etc messages from 1970s, 80s, up until today. They are different between each other but all fail in one thing - timing. I don't have the answer either. Seems something stops the events from unfolding. Is it God, as the believers would say, or is it manipulation of time? If that pace is preserved, the generations who believed throughout 20th century of either of those prophecies, will slowly but surely die off. Including the generation that aw Israel restored. Malachi Martin came to shed a light on timing. If his 2016- 2017 fails, there isn't much left to believe in. Fatima will be scrapped as one of the many failed prophecies in their times. The originators of manipulative interpretations and false leaks must know, the humanity anyway will reach to the point of no return. The question is not so much what Lucy wrote on those 20+ lines handwritten text (if we assume it was Lucy indeed and if the envelopes in Vatican are still the authentic ones). The question is what will happen to me, to the people around, to the people on Earth, and npt what the Vatican will say will happen. There is a difference between.

Malachi Martin sounds strange to say every person on the face of the planet will know, but the interpretations will differ. Why, what could make a difference by providing different interpretation? A comet is still a comet, a world war is still a world war. Aliens may be interpreted as good or evil though. Knowing that, every word said by Martin comes to confirm that.

I am not in a hurry to agree with his own interpretations. May be I follow just the opposite ones. Pls see my thread 3 days of darkness. But I am smart enough to know what the enemy has to say. Some people, some of whom were informed to read here, would prefer their own interpretations. Of technology and benevolence that will save the planet. Who said that? They said it.

How about a rescue event for those who do not want to participate in that drama anymore, in the roles of the tragic heroes. 2000 years lies were enough were they not? For 2000 years we could be told the truth, and we weren't told, not because the leaders didn't know it. Humanity could live well, and it didn't for purpose. Enough of that. Whether Fatima discuss that and gives the escape way, or whether it is the sacrificial monster posing in "apparitions" here and there, either way the current time runs out for both.

originally posted by: 2012newstart
It is a pity there isn't a large Fatima discussion, in the terms of positive, meaningless, critical analysis.

Most people do not believe made up children's stories.

One more point to consider:

Planet X (9) cannot be taken lightly anymore, after it was posted in the MSM a week ago. We were told of its theoretical presence so much in the last decade, starting with Z.Sitchin's rediscoveries of ancient books, that we already took it for granted, for a good story to be retold 200 years more and still unfulfilled.

May be Nibiru is much nearer in time and space. That is just one possibility, that should be considered together with al other options. Does it matter if the humankind will die off that way, or by nuclear war, if we don't react on time? The result will be one and the same.

If MSM, presidents, etc. say tomorrow that we have 6 more months to Nibiru and that's it for the civilization on earth after the Flood...what's next? I guess many of us will die before that period by wars, hunger, diseases, and street riots to get food.

"My people perish because of lack of knowledge", said the prophet.

The Prophet of Islam had only one daughter named Fatima. Her mother Khadija had two other daughters from her two earlier marriages. When The Prophet married her, both daughters came with her mother to live in the house of the Prophet.

Hazrat Fatima (sa) was born five years before Bethat when Muhammad (S) was about 35 years old and her mother Khadija was about 50 years old. She has many other titles. Zahra (Lady of Light) and Sayyidatun Nisa al Alamin (Leader of the women of the worlds). The Date of her birth was 20th Jamad al Akhar.

Throughout northern Africa, Turkey, and in other parts of the Middle East, Muslims wear the necklace and , "Hand of Fatima" , as a jewellery and also for superstitious protection. Fatima was the daughter of the Prophet Muhammad who married Ali, the nephew of the Prophet. From their descendants Shi'a Muslims claim a direct line of authority over Muslims. Miracles were attributed to Fatima, such as when she prayed in the desert, it started raining. She is described as a faithful, holy woman. This article from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Turkey tells of the importance of jewelry named for her:

You make statements as if the FATIMA realization did not happen, when it did.

When I was nearly self combusted I was attacked as radiation cut across my wrists....my hand and brain signals changed and I was making strange movements with my hand. I also received a cut around my throat and saw an image of an evil spirit holding a severed head....does this sound real to you?

I had the physical outcome of an evil spirit attack...that correlated to the female voice that I heard state "I'm not One".

Therefore as the children who witnessed Fatima....I too heard the female innocent voice of the medium of our life interaction be murdered....and it was because of Science.

Don't tell me that it is not real.....the light and sound wavelengths that you changed by studying my life, took from humanity a huge amount of angelic light and sound reaction and replaced it with increased radiation.

In the message our Holy Father told me that not only was I attacked but millions of humans on Earth also lost their own life cells.

As I hear as a human being...on the level of humanity....on the level of our past life living records being created...I heard my family lose their Holy Mother. Our Mother....a physical human being gave us life from an origin manifestation of her adult human female self. All of her children were born from her physical body....and as I heard the records of all of human kinds' living life on the past life memory....just as the children had, I knew that science had once again destroyed an angelic system of cooled radiation interactions.

The angel itself is not conscious....our own human self is...and as our life belongs to a world community...the world community of human life was attacked as a Mother review.

It is so wrong of your incorrect review of our Holy Mother, to imply that her presence is a reaction...for the fake/false angelic spirit images belong to Satan...not to our own holy life. Our holy spirit came out of origin light and we manifested into a life form...as the origin parents our Mother and Father, equal and paired around the whole world.

Science does not believe in origin light, they want our origin manifestation to be the atmosphere.....but the God of Satan, did not create us.

The light and sound of the total of the mass of the atmosphere changed the spirit light sound of our origin parents spirits...this God is the unseen God and this God will never be known to occultists.

originally posted by: beenharmed
When I was nearly self combusted I was attacked as radiation cut across my wrists....my hand and brain signals changed and I was making strange movements with my hand. I also received a cut around my throat and saw an image of an evil spirit holding a severed head....does this sound real to you?

No, it sounds like a mental illness - did you seek medical help?

a reply to: hellobruce

How was the medical profession going to assist me?

I knew that I was in an illegal study and experiment of my life, via the conditions that I gained and the notification.

The operative has always attacked humanity with the retort of having a mental health condition when a member of the public has expressed the situation as public evidence of personal attacks due to scientific experimentation.

The only retort you seem to have.

As I also am aware...the state of evil spirit attacks belongs to the Catholic Church as a reasoning of assistance. As I was aware...the Catholic institution itself is also involved in the human cell study and God precepts...as sciences.

Who did I have to support my life condition? Spirit itself.

As I already explained, I could have died in the attack and yet I survived. Our spiritual Light Father who you seem to imply does not exist...saved my life.

I heard him in the past life spirit channels as his spirit came through from origin light. I heard him in the American Native Indian sound singing channel. He spoke to me as our Father, in a Native American spirit, as this was where he manifested trying to find who was being spiritually attacked in his family. The situation only proved that America was using a transmitted signal to study my life in Australia.

My Father apologized to me...and said he was sorry for what "those bad boys had done to me". He has since supported my life and brain condition from the attacks, which the experimenters are well aware of...for they also heard him, seeing they have a feedback channel relating to human thought.

They gained this data from studying human beings with the brain ability to mind contact and mind control, after they were advised that the Russians had been using the ability themselves. They made a program on this data review.

I know because I am a victim.

I live in Australia and never believed in mind control myself and thought it was simply propaganda...until I was attacked. Experience is the only truth that a victim has....and you seemingly think that humanity will believe your retorts and not my experience?

I never believed in evil spirits either, and simply believed that the phenomena of the negative human expression was what caused evil. Not until I was attacked, and experienced the evil spirit did I believe.

originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: hellobruce

How was the medical profession going to assist me?

Help you deal with your mental problem!

I knew that I was in an illegal study and experiment of my life,

What makes you think it was illegal? Which law did it break?

As I already explained, I could have died in the attack and yet I survived. Our spiritual Light Father who you seem to imply does not exist...saved my life.

No, she did not. I just checked and my invisible pink unicorns just told me that they had kicked the crap out of the bunyip that "attacked" you. I will pass on your thanks to them.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: hellobruce

How was the medical profession going to assist me?

Help you deal with your mental problem!

I knew that I was in an illegal study and experiment of my life,

What makes you think it was illegal? Which law did it break?

As I already explained, I could have died in the attack and yet I survived. Our spiritual Light Father who you seem to imply does not exist...saved my life.

No, she did not. I just checked and my invisible pink unicorns just told me that they had kicked the crap out of the bunyip that "attacked" you. I will pass on your thanks to them.

If you believe that it is legal to experiment on human life without their permission then obviously your retort demonstrates this belief.

All of your retorts demonstrate your beliefs.

When I have tried to inform my spiritual minded family, whose self experiences support spirit...I am told that my information is too negative and that children on the website should not be given fearful information.

Who then can I advise and ask for support when the operatives have control of all the forums?

If mind contact and mind control were not real issues, then why was the information discussed?

We only pose topics by the experience.....not by the mental condition.

When a community that involves many different life reviews...but all reviewed as belonging to the occultist attacks themselves....how obvious is it to humanity that you can affect the mental and emotional condition of the human mind?
humansarefree.com/2015/04/74-nasa-scientists-killed-in-recent.htmlApr 19, 2015 - by Neon Nettle The unusually high number of scientist deaths in recent years has made people question whether this death was suspicious or ...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

As a victim, when I was attacked my brain felt like it was going to explode along with feelings of having a heart attack.

After this incident was when an operative spoke to my mind contact...informed me that they were an operative and also stated that no one would believe me for they had the ability to coerce the mind choices of human life.

Why do you think that the occult program studied the nuclear contacts of the attacks on the human mind/physical cell state? Why did the CIA gather this intelligence? To use for a program.

As the nuclear signals exist before natural human life, they exist on a lower frequency....but demonstrated that they contacted and also attacked the human consciousness.

educate-yourself.org...

My family will vouch for my personal attacks and how my life changed. I told my sister about how I was attacked after researching information on the Internet and looking at holographic patterns that belonged on a research quote.

I also told you that my brain caused me to feel like I was drugged, when I do not and have never taken drugs. I was shopping and a male walked past me holding up a piece of chalk.....does that sound like an operative?

The Fatima and also stigmata concepts belong to a higher female interaction as the data states, and this situation also involves euphoric sensations. All of which I endured that led up to the near self combustion incident.

If any scientist other than an American is interested in studying my physical and brain condition, then they are most welcome to.

The ancient Muslim community knew about Fatima, why is it that the Roman religion also uses the same reference?

www.imdb.com...

As I experienced the attack of the female called Fatima as witness to atmospheric changes.....it is obvious that the children were seeing the removal of the out of space angelic body, as their own DNA loss of the atmospheric medium also disappeared at the same time.

I know this is a fact by what happened to my own self. A huge light flash of a yellowed atmospheric light....my eyesight instantaneously changed and blurred and the color of the atmosphere altered. Every day my brain received a "flash", just like your website demonstrates....."flashing".

originally posted by: beenharmed
If you believe that it is legal to experiment on human life without their permission

As you were not experimented on.... what are you on about?

Who then can I advise and ask for support

A mental health specialist!

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: beenharmed
If you believe that it is legal to experiment on human life without their permission

As you were not experimented on.... what are you on about?

Who then can I advise and ask for support

A mental health specialist!

I was physically/mentally attacked when I went to a rodeo 26th December. These attacks cause my brain to hear changed sounds...which ends up with vomitting and at times diahorrea. I am always informed that the attacks are on purpose...done to scare me when I am out in public.

America feedback attack.......
On December 26, 2015, the tornado outbreak portion of the storm system, with 28 tornadoes total confirmed, began when ten tornadoes impacted Texas that evening, mostly in and around the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex, killing 12


Adelaide (South Australia), OH

Sighted on Saturday 27. September 2008
Reported on Friday 26. September 2008
Shape: Light | Duration: 3mins
Source: NUFORC

A set of 5-7 unknown lights flash over the city of adelaide, australia.i was sitting outside the house at around midnight when i see a set of 5-7 lights flash in the air...at first i thought they were fire crackers but the light kept climbing and moving in the sky....it travled all the way from above my house to the other side and gradually faded....it coould not have been airplanes bcuz i did not hear any sound of the flight....nor was it a shooting star as the lights kept moving for a good 4min duration...it also left behind a good long trail of light...cloud like..


Researching the 2008 UFO attack signal with the collider experiment as a means for proof of my attack/experiment condition.....last night firecrackers were let off continually. As I am in a country fire area....releasing fire crackers after the last bushfires we had is against the law....funny isn't it!

Phantomfire, I sincerely sorry for your loss!!!
But to say Vatican and pope Francis have any involvement, that is quite serious and should be proven. Please do not understand me wrong.
You say they want you to be Petrus Romanus, but you see that is another big claim. If we are talking of PR. there are now two not one popes inside the walls. A third one? It is little overcrowded over there, moreover, neither of them sleeps in the papal palace. A pope is not just a personal with 3-4 maids and 3-4 secretaries. Do they and esp. today's pope find living space enough for their duties? That might be fine. But for everything else, Benedict to come back after he solemnly resigned, it is not quite realistic. Rather Francis will follow him. Then the cardinals may indeed elect a third one, but that goes beyond the list of Malachi. If they have a time for that.

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: beenharmed
If you believe that it is legal to experiment on human life without their permission

As you were not experimented on.... what are you on about?

Who then can I advise and ask for support

A mental health specialist!

I was experimented on, by a satellite channeled ground to feedback program by NASA...the operative told me that they were the CIA after I was brain attacked and felt like I was going to have a heart attack.

This situation happened after I posted information on the Websites about my healing life review and information that correlated healing had occurred.

As I stated, this program was a review of a long list of data accumulated to allow the program to be made active...mind contact and mind control by knowledge of brain chemistry and thought/image produced chemical interactions.

No human in the public arena could deny the amount of evil minded choices undertaken by occultists over the years of occult practices relating to our natural life condition....the public evidence verifies the situation and you only argue as a retort, making claims to the public that no such consideration should be allowed or that this form of information is false.

We are approaching the inevitable anniversary, with two sources in recent times to point out at it as the fulfilment date (there is a date in the secret known to those who have read it). The anniversary 100th year starts on May 2016 (sixteen) and fulfills October 2017.

I discuss more in my latest threads about Fr Amorth. Seems someone is terribly afraid of something, and at the same time doesn't have the courage or the freedom to say it. I say more, but I'd like to have other responses not necessarily to agree with me, but to have constructive dialogue. Isn't it all about that here? We all have encounter trols, and I believe you believe I am not a troll.

CIA just released the X-files from 50s. One of the many pushes that come to say, times irreversibly have changed. No matter if the people are ready or not, if the leaders are ready or not.
Rome chief exorcist Fr. Gabriele Amorth expects Fatima prophecy in 5 months or less www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: 2012newstart
When anyone reviews the occult brotherhood as fighting and opposing organizations, and a member of the church murdered....at times you must wonder who murdered them?

Is the organization itself blamed for being advised of a satanic realization....or is it the organization who wants to take control and world leadership the criminal?

The brotherhood and criticizing the brotherhood organizations has continually been about illegal activity and also ownership and control.

When one organization provides the evidence that a mind control and mind contact program is established....who should argue about the data provided...when honest public minded humans try to prevent life destruction?

Who should anyone of us believe, when the brotherhood for such a long history has been infighting itself as secret orders?

Who should we trust?

We all know that ancient occultism took away the personal and equal rights of all of humanity, and of course we all are aware that we inherited this life decision...but why continue the secrecy...what gain has secrecy ever given to the brotherhoods...other than murder and the destruction of life.

When is the brotherhood going to become a world family....and be equal in all forms of self review? We are all meant to serve each other...we are a family who is supposed to support a loving, kind and caring nurture, so that we can heal our spirits from all of the self deceits that we have inherited....by not understanding mistake until it is too late.

When is a warning enough of a warning, for a brotherhood to take personal action?

The ancient documents written regarding the cause and effect realization of altering the natural atmospheric cooled radiation interaction....ancient heated radiation attack from the Planets/Suns.

2012 the prophecized reasoning for renewal....cooling of radiation.

This was implied as a virtue involving all cessation of occult practices....

19 AND IF ANY MAN SHALL TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THE PROPHECY, GOD SHALL TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, AND OUT OF THE HOLY CITY, AND FROM THE THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK.

1900s....occult scientific conversions reapply atmospheric radiation interactions....converted the atmosphere and RUSSIA is attacked.....did not HEED THE WARNINGS.

Reinvented and copied the attack of the Bible......complete from beginning to end.

Self destruction eminent.

Obviously your mind conditioned to the radiation changes believes that it is indestructible....for obviously radiation by conscious presence would cause you to believe yourself indestructible....whereas radiation is converted and can be destroyed from its higher status of cold...to return to its lower status of heat.

Hence you previously considered the human life going to hell.....for what reason?

The reasoning belonged to the self evident review that human life gains self combustion by alteration of natural evolution of radiation....cooling.

You wanted a science for instantaneous cold....when no such condition has ever existed.

Cold radiation has only ever been gained by cooling.

You created an artificial machine to form an artificial outcome that by reason does not exist naturally.

AI demonstrates by purposeful male considerations to be the destruction of life on Earth...Hawkings attested to this review.

As 19 was activated in 1900s, 20 and 21 THE COMING OF AGE...radiation cooling, did not happen, the return destroyed.

Instead you reinvested in the 22 Revelations manifestations and multiplication, for it restarted self destruction.

The Holy Law enforced by the ancient holy brotherhood was to stop/prevent and murder all occultists or place them in jail so that they could not practice occultism. Hence the Roman brotherhood had a world wide research astronomical aware advice...UFO formation to give the evidence of what country was still doing conversion/levitation of stone by UFO release as the astronomical advice. This is why their brotherhood would then seek out the life attackers and murder them....FACT.

The reason......the cold was given to stone....nuclear fuel that exists before all life and Nature. The cold invested for the creation of nuclear fuel. The only reason life survived on Earth was because of ice melting, replacing the atmospheric cooling and also oxygen. This cooling however is not as cold as cold radiation, which is why life changed at the cellular condition.

The pope just cancelled Fatima. No consecration of Russia one can talk about, now, when he hugged his brother the patriarch. Will they consecrate Russia together? Very unlikely. "Our Lady won", will say some cathoics. Russia converted or never was to be converted.
Only the future can prove which of the versions got it right. The near future. One is sure, this pope cancelled what was the most famous prophecy in 20th century that kept the faith aflame. Now Fatima becomes irrelevant, but nowhere near to be fulfilled in its well known part for Era of peace to follow a Russian conversion. One has to think again, what does it mean that we have a conversion of Russia fr decades and no Era of Peace on the horizon whatsoever? Did Our Lady somehow misspelled the words heard by God to be said to humans on earth, or what?

If the version of Russia being consecrated in 1984 is true, if what we see from the TV screen of pope hugging patriarch is a sign of that, then we have to see also without any further delay the real Era of Peace coming from the clouds. It was delayed way too long, after 1989 and after 2000, to the point the people to question the very existence of Fatima, prophecies, and who is good and bad in the so set theater. May be we don't deal with a real prophecy at all, then. Or may be Our Lady said something absolutely different than what we were told about. Because what we see happening does not match what was written (the known part). I do not say it is a bad thing, just the opposite it is a good thing very good that patriarch of Russia hugs the pope after 1000 year schism. But there is something wrong, and the wrong is on the side of the Vatican who plays again instead of telling us the truth that concerns us.

If tomorrow the ET tell us another truth, I will be the first one to subscribe to it, after so many centuries of lies. We have hard proof we were told lies, since the time of Galileo, only we don't know what the other side of the coin is, the true side. Because the coin changers are inside the Temple and never left it.

a reply to: 2012newstart

There is an unfortunate language issue, in every meaning. Thank God that doesn't stop you.

I was up all night reading most of this thread. Is Phantom fire okay?

I clicked your Avatar to see more about you. Connecting these dots is almost a test but also a gift for a thirsty old soul. Your post regarding religions with extra terrestrial origin has been the 0,0 point missing dot. You have secured my sanity. This is why I am here.

Thank you my friend. I am in unity with you.

a reply to: ClownFish

well I did what I had to do, thank s for the thanks. Indeed one has been given a time to wake up for these things, my own time was let say 7 years ago may be when I felt as having downloads with all kind of info for weeks, via pretty normal internet interviews not via supernatural. Not only the things that I currently post.

You may want to browse and watch little older interviews in the archive of Project Camelot portal (they divided since then but the archive is preserved). Of course Biblioteca Pleiades is endless source of both seemingly authentic ones and those that can be set aside. Coast to Coast AM gives the best secular interviews stripped of too much religion but not atheistic in anyway. I am sure you will find others. Disclosure is a keyword. All those groups of dedicated enthusiasts expected obama to announce the ET presence with several aliens next to him on the TV in the late 2009 before or on his inauguration as peace prize winner. It didn't happen, some say because he was warned by the Norway spiral. Priceless years were lost. It must come now, regardless of how many people will accept it. 2012 showed the craziness of people could be restrained.

Fatima, Fatima....Fatima 3rd secret... Russia...I hear around all my life. Now when the things come to fulfillment, when we see Russian patriarch next to pope for the first time EVER, those all voices are silenced. Strange indeed.

Shall we see in real the situation from the film "2012" when St Peter's dome collapsed upon the faithful leaded in prayer by fanatic cardinals?