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I didn't, obviously, but I could have easily gotten stuck there, I think.
..then you must have also found out that you didn't have to stay there.
My soul was pulled out of my physical body, as some sort of soul body, then as my consciousness attached to that part of "me", was pulled through the floor, then I was falling and falling, down a dark tunnel for a very long time before being deposited into Hell proper.
Many of the ancients, including the greeks, say hell (hades) is below earth.
originally posted by: Skyfloating
A question to Christians out there: If Eternal Life can only be had through Jesus, then how is it that eternal life (in hell) can be had without him?
Jesus: "I'm a gentleman Nick, I'll never force myself on you or anyone.
Jesus: Nick, what would be more unjust and unfair, for me to steal you at the moment of your death and force you to live in my presence and in my will for all eternity.
Jesus: Hell on the other hand is a place where you'll be completely free from all of my "though shalt nots"... FOREVER."
Melisa: But surely no one would choose that if they knew you really existed?
Jesus: Not so, nobody goes into hell blindfolded. In one way or another, I've revealed myself to everyone.
Melisa: But if they could just see you...
Jesus: Not even that would be enough. Look at satan, he stood before me in the very throne room of God. But he thought the beauty and the power bestowed was somehow earned. Gave himself over to pride. Scratch any sin and just below the surface you'll find pride...
Jesus: "I don’t want you to wallow in sin and rebellion and guilt. I want you to thrive in unending peace and joy. There isn’t one human being on this planet that’s an accident. I hand formed you in your mother’s womb and I formed you for a purpose. I put before you a path of love and worship. And the degree with which you’ll experience love and joy and the good things of life is the degree to which you’ll bend to my will.
Jesus: Everyone dies, Nick, but not everyone needs to fear death. If you abide in me, you’ll be stepping free from this fallen world and into glory.
Melisa: Is that what heaven’s like? Glory?
Jesus: It’s more than glory, Melissa. It’s peace and love and joy. Can you imagine living in the fullness of the warmth of God’s light? There are no words in the human vocabulary that can describe it. It’s a place where there is no suffering. It’s a place where every tear is wiped from your eyes. There’s no sadness. There’s no pain. And you know, Melissa, one day you and I will walk on the streets of gold and we’ll talk about this night together."
Jesus:You know, everyday I get millions of complaints about this world all the greed and selfishness poverty, starvation, the wars, the murders, the abuse of children I hardly recognize this place anymore. It bears so literal resemblance to the garden that I created for you, but it’s not hell, Nick. Even now, there’s sunshine on a spring day, there’s starry night and desert sky, there’s a gentle breeze on a summer afternoon and the smell of flowers, the song of birds, There’s even people who are willing to lend a helping hand to the helpless and there’s love Nick, there’s still love.
...out of love, he allowed Lucifer to choose his own way and this is the same freedom the Lord gives to each of us. He's not going to force anyone to go to heaven that chooses that they don't want to, even if they once did. God doesn't make decisions for us, but He allows us to choose for ourselves. This has to be true, since sin entered the world because of bad choices made by Adam and Eve.
The Lord gave each of His created beings a free will. After we have accepted Jesus as our savior, we still have the freedom to turn back to a life of sin and to reject His grace. The Lord speaks about people being in danger of having their names removed from the Book of Life. (Exodus 32:33 & Revelation 3:5)
Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation?
originally posted by: HistoricalActionFigure
There's nothing all-loving about a God who condemns unbaptized babies...
"This dome," said my guide, "is the place where all infants from earth are gathered for instruction. The outer buildings are the nurseries where they are first brought, to be nourished by their guardian angel." "Whenever an infant dies on earth, the guardian angel who brings it here considers all of its abilities and places it with others of similar ability. According to its artistic, scientific or social abilities, each is given a home best suited to the development of its gifts." INFANTS' PARADISE
"I too was able to see where the infants are. Everything she described (Marietta Davis) was as I saw it. But I saw and was told more specifically they were all the babies that were born and died, and miscarriages and abortions. When I was there, I was at home. That is where we belong. Make every effort to get there." Nine Days in Heaven
In heaven, children are there, all the ones who died young, in childbirth, or were aborted.
"Colton, still 4 years old, told his mother “you had a baby die in your tummy didn’t you”, which completely shocked them both because they had never told him about their miscarriage. They asked him how he knew and he said that he met his sister in Heaven and she told him what happened."
"Well he’s 7 years old now and it took a couple of years for his parents to really understand what happened, but when Colton Burpo was four years he was having surgery in the hospital for a burst appendix. While he was in surgery he apparently had some sort of out of body experience and could see what his parents were doing. He witnessed that his dad was praying and his mom on her cellphone. Both parents say they have no clue how he knew that, but that it’s absolutely true. And the story just gets more interesting from there.
Four year old met his mother’s miscarried child in Heaven
"In 1988, evangelist Jesse Duplantis was taken up into Heaven. While he was there, he saw a multitude of small children, singing and praising God as they played little harps. When he asked the angel who had brought him there who they were, he was told they were the children the earth did not want. As Duplantis watched these children, who appeared to be from three to ten years old, he realized that they were children who had been lost to abortion. The angel explained to him that these children longed to see their mothers come to Heaven and be reunited with them." Link
originally posted by: jmdewey60
My point being that all these negative factors are not by design, but just the way they turned out after the great 'machine of creation' was set loose to construct the universe.
originally posted by: bigcountry08
you see the flaw in your OP right? you show no proof at all you state no facts only your opinions, also there are many versus in the bible that state hell is eternal. maybe next time before you decide to start a thread you should actually put some time into your thread.
originally posted by: Skyfloating
I mean lets take Hitler for example. I can see how punishing him for a hundred years might seem reasonable and an opportunity to "learn the lesson" or as a deterrent.
originally posted by: bigcountry08
depends on which religion your talking about, if your talking about Christianity then yes. Its just that simple.
lol how am i not loving my neighbor? because i'm calling him out on the weakness of his OP.