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Russia and China dumped the US - Petro dollar and Dow Drops

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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

Apparently you must be too young to remember when foreign goods were so cheap they were considered trash. I have just provided you a mainstream media article about Chinese hackers stealing US and Aussie technology, and that's only one of the most recent.
And you have the audacity to suggest that we got it all from China instead. I have a question in logic for you. If the Chinese are so brilliant that we needed to get technology from them, then why are they resorting to stealing our stuff?????


Among the weapons listed in the report were the advanced Patriot missile system, the Navy's Aegis ballistic missile defense systems, the F/A-18 fighter jet, the V-22 Osprey, the Black Hawk helicopter and the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.


usnews.nbcnews.com...
The way I see it, either they can build it on their own or they need to steal it from us.

You have much to learn, young Paduwan


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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: BobAthome

I don't know what you are talking about, and I guess I just have to watch some YouTube to get Smart in Economy. (even though I have a minor in Business Management).

China is the key to our recovery and we owe all our creativity to China? What planet did you say you are from? China STEALS our technology, at least whatever Clinton and other treasonous politicians didn't give them.
Either you are working off of Progressive revisionist history or I misunderstood your point.

Oh yes, and it's to, not too.
i quote myself "Well ur gonna have too start here" its also you are but , nevr mnd.

Here's for your edification

Chinese hackers have gained access to designs of more than two dozen major U.S. weapons systems, a U.S. report said on Monday, as Australian media said Chinese hackers had stolen the blueprints for Australia's new spy headquarters

usnews.nbcnews.com...




posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: elysiumfire




So what? It is what it is. Some will suffer, yes, most will be inconvenienced and it is they who will whinge and whine the most...



You must be happy in your bondage to a surveillance society worse than the US, and I guess Michelle O is taking your example of telling everyone to eat their broccoli, or ELSE!
How's the waiting for surgical procedures working out for you?


Actually the US is the worlds biggest snoop. Have you heard of the "Five eyes" program? Didn't you realise anything when snowden leaked the program? The US monitors everything on the internet and every phone call. The even monitor presidents of allies such as Germany etc. They then tried to lie about it but the truth is out there now. The next step is to create a internet system outside of the control of the US



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

What's your point in quoting me without a response?

Your post was very convoluted, but I did get that somehow you think Americans were always too stupid to make good technology and that you think we owe everything to them.
I think you are full of it. I was actually being polite in blaming it on revisionist history, but that is what the Progressives must do in order to demoralize Americans.
Considering the Universities are full of Marxist professors and invite people like Anita Dunn to tell students that Mao is brilliant and on a par with Mother Theresa....I don't know what else to say to you.


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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:38 PM
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Oh yes, and it's to, not too.
i quote myself "Well ur gonna have too start here" its also you are but , nevr mnd.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

But seeing that seeing is not amongst your most obvious eyetrabutes,,
how bout connecting, Business Management in the 21 Century, and stolen cyber secrects as relevant to or is that too,well as relevant in the topic,"Russia and China dumped the US - Petro dollar".
or is Cyber Warfare all the rage?



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:41 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome




too start here" its also you are but , nevr mnd.



Yes it's "to", just like I said. You also forgot the apostrophe on it's. But never mind. You missed some vowels as well. Is this texting from your phone or something?




But seeing that seeing is not amongst your most obvious eyetrabutes,,


Now you are just resorting to ridicule and insult and that is just sad. Why not try debating on the merit of your own argument?

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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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"demoralize Americans. "
i give u evidence of a teacher at a University Level MBA course, "demoralizing American" students with a lecture on how China is a better role model for business development in America,, then post my opinion on the injustice of said lecture,, and u attack me???????????
wow.
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
well Churchill did say "American's,, there awful slow,, but once they get it",,,,,,,,etc...

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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: Telos

Telos,

This is not a US dollar issue, nor China, or Russian, it is about a world cartel that wants the masses to think something is changing, but in all honesty it's just another fiat currency play/illusion.

For those that don't understand the world banking system here is a great video that sums it up nicely.





I respectfully disagree. Yours also is a valid point but I see my point to be closer to how I feel about the whole situation. Thanks for your input though.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: borntowatch

First, 85% of our "debt" is owed to Americans like me, in the form of pensions, annuities and retirement accounts.

Second - let the Chinese come calling for their 15% whenever they feel froggy.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome




i give u evidence of a teacher at a University Level MBA course


what u said was America never had any technological expertise or creativity, not that Americans lost it to the Chinese for lack of proper education. I have sum things too say too u on the education in America, that is,the deliberate dumbing down of Americans.
When I was still in high school, I ran across a book entitled, "Why Johnny Can't Read". It has been a deliberate process of dumbing down children so that they are mere cogs in the wheel of the Supreme State. This pedagogical method comes to us from John Dewey, a secular humanist and Statist, who believed in government control, and believed, like a foolish journalist recently said, that the children do not belong to their parents but to the State.
There, how did you like my lazy typing?


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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: borntowatch

First, 85% of our "debt" is owed to Americans like me, in the form of pensions, annuities and retirement accounts.

Second - let the Chinese come calling for their 15% whenever they feel froggy.


Oh they likely will, and likely already have, in the form of our treasonous politicians selling public lands to the Chinese. Remember the Bundy thing, where Reid's son was doing such a deal with a Chinese solar company? Who knows what other horrible and treasonous things have been done in our name.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: BobAthome
"demoralize Americans. "
i give u evidence of a teacher at a University Level MBA course, "demoralizing American" students with a lecture on how China is a better role model for business development in America,, then post my opinion on the injustice of said lecture,, and u attack me???????????
wow.
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
well Churchill did say "American's,, there awful slow,, but once they get it",,,,,,,,etc...


And here I was, all upset over Barack giving back the bust of Churchill.




and u attack me???????????


I challenged your viewpoint that Americans never had any know how.

I apologize if I attacked you. But I do concede I should have watched the vid instead of reacting to your assertion.
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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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your not at wrk ur allowed to be lazy,,




a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: TiM3LoRd

And how exactly will they take possession again?



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:03 PM
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"Why would I trust some progressive professor in some school I never heard of"

thats the point u dont,, the students do.
or maybe u prefer the Japanese model???
which was popular for a while,,
having a business deg. myself i remember the different Business organizational models we had too study.
Always thought american capatalism would work,, at 33% profit margin.
lol ya 33% ,, boy was i stupid.




a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: BobAthome
your not at wrk ur allowed to be lazy,,




a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus



How do you know I am not at work? I only shorten my typing when texting on my phone, so I figured that is what you are doing.

Actually, I started work at 8 and got off at 4:30.



posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:12 PM
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What business model do you think will work then? I think that professor mentioned the Soviet Union. Well, the USSR was using the communist model of centralized planning and government ownership of all the means of production, and we see how well that worked out? Somehow after the fall, in the interim the Soviet Union went all mafia(I know because I had a dance teacher from Astrakhan), then started incorporating some more Capitalistic stuff, as China has done as well. As you might know from your studies, America has a mixed economy, with Keynesianism taking a strong lead for some time, but now we have a bunch of Marxists trying to take us into socialism in a serious way. How will we really know which model is working the best? Communism did not work, so it is frustrating to me that so many in the US want that, and that is why I made the comment about Progressives in the Universities. It is a fact that Marxists have infiltrated the colleges here.

hmmm that professor said, "We won the Cold War, and we need to tighten our belts". Now isn't that what I said about government spending? Turns out I actually agree with the guy.


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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:19 PM
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quote "hmmm that professor said, "We won the Cold War, and we need to tighten our belts". Now isn't that what I said about government spending? Turns out I actually agree with the guy. "
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"we need to tighten our belts" he was talking about the average person or middle class,, not Government,,
remember u have too think, Marxist.

which brings us back to

and why it is imperative for some to see that the American dollar is crushed.

its the "God" part.




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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:28 PM
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There is also another well known Business Model,
called "someone ain't going too get there beak wet" Model,,,

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A mostly Family type Model.

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posted on May, 21 2014 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

Then I would have to go back and listen to the entire lecture without distraction. I did not hear him say that the Middle Class needs to tighten our belts. I heard him say "we need to tighten our belts". Unless he means, we have to stop borrowing on our credit cards, yes that makes sense, but the government really has to stop spending, or it won't matter what the average citizen does or does not do, because government is causing inflation, not the middle class. Right now, we seem to be unable to get our politicians to control spending. Why is this happening? Because we have socialists and politicians who believe that we can spend our way out of a recession, and I think that Professor might agree with me that that is actually a recipe for disaster.


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