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originally posted by: RossWellOldMexico
Lazar is a bull$h!+ artist. Bentwaters, Phoenix, Chicago O'Hare and the Stevenville case have more credible evidence then what this fraud brings. Lazar is the American Billy Meier. At least, Meier has pictures. The Area 51 is old news, time for new ufo cases. Lazar is just drawing attention to himself on this matter. Move on people, nothing new to see here.
originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: charlyv
Or possibly the members of ATS vote on a series of questions that are prepared before hand for Bob Lazar and Knapp, and they answer them and are placed into a new thread for us to discuss. I wouldn't mind that at all, because I do believe a lot of the AMA are overwhelming for the OPs because questions are just fired off rapidly and the threads fill up so fast. By doing it this way it's more controlled.
originally posted by: truthseeker84
I once saw a few YouTube episodes of Bob Lazar's interview, seems pretty credible to me. Either that, or he is one hell of a liar. The videos can still be found on YouTube, feel free to watch them anytime.
The thing that intrigued me the most, is the way he described element 115, where it could have formed/existed and why it is stable, etc. etc.
I mean, how are you going to just BS everything and expect them to be true? He's either an amateur physicists who's lying his ass off, or he is truly a gifted scientist that is well versed in advanced physics theories. You have to pick one, he is one or the other, can't be both.
If you discredit him and take him as a shill, a liar, an amateur physics office temp, then he shouldn't be able to accurately predict advanced physic theories, such as the existence of element 115 and more specifically, how it was formed and why it can be stable.
Mind you that his initial interview was back in 1989. This was the first interview he did after supposedly having his tires shot out on the road. He gets paranoid, afraid of being snuffed, so he called out to go on record.
Whether those allegations are true or false, one thing is for certain, we didn't actually create element 115 until recent years.
There was also something else he mentioned in that 1989 interview. The way he describes why element 115 exist. He explained something about Zeta Reticuli, how it had a "Binary Star System" and that is why element 115 is possible in that region of space.
Didn't know what to react to this particular part of his statement, until many many years later.
There was an article on ATS, just a few months ago or perhaps a little over half a year maybe? It was a scientific article about a discovery scientists made in recent years, I think the official discovery announcement was back in 2012 but the headline was in 2013.
It was about how scientists discovered that different parts of the Universe, may be operating under different laws of physics. Which means, the laws of physics as we understand in our Galaxy, may not be the same as other parts of the Universe.
Which also implies, that elements on our periodic table can be vastly different from a periodic table pulled from a different part of our Universe.
What this tells me, is that back in 1989, when Bob Lazar mentioned something about element 115 can exist in a binary star system, he knew something back then that scientists wasn't sure of until recent years.
My question is, how does Bob Lazar know that different parts of our Universe had different laws of physics? How could he have known for sure back in 1989? Something that wasn't solidly proven until 2012?
It seems we are on the opposing side in regards to Bob Lazar. I will admit that when Lazar came out with these allegations, I believed him. But the inconsistencies to his credentials and his story is a red flag to me. He may have passed a lie detector. In the legal jurisdiction in where I live(Canada), lie detector evidence is inadmissible. People who have sociopathic tendencies or used tricks like pressing a toe with tack inside a shoe may beat a lie detector. If Stanton Friedman(a fellow Canadian) calls Bob Lazar a fraud, that's good enough for me.
originally posted by: Destinyone
originally posted by: RossWellOldMexico
Lazar is a bull$h!+ artist. Bentwaters, Phoenix, Chicago O'Hare and the Stevenville case have more credible evidence then what this fraud brings. Lazar is the American Billy Meier. At least, Meier has pictures. The Area 51 is old news, time for new ufo cases. Lazar is just drawing attention to himself on this matter. Move on people, nothing new to see here.
I disagree with you. I'll stick around, as I'm very curious, and not willing to just take your word for it.
I hope you don't post stuff like this in the AMA thread with George....
Des
a reply to: JadeStar
Particle accelerators typically do not produce anything of value other than science.
originally posted by: wtbengineer
a reply to: JadeStar
Particle accelerators typically do not produce anything of value other than science.
And converting things chemically from a less useful form to a more useful form if the beam is of sufficient strength. I worked at an accelerator plant in the '80s where we ran polymers under the beam through a tunnel to change them into forms more readily adaptable for the purposes intended. The accelerator was in a cooling tower above the plant, and the material was fed on a track through a tunnel to the vault inside where it was irradiated under the beam. The accelerator itself was fairly massive and I don't remember the power consumption, though on the MW scale anyway. BTW, you didn't want to be anywhere in the tunnel when the machine was fired up! Much less in the chamber which contained the horn itself.
originally posted by: amazing
I would love a George Knapp Q and A! That would be awesome.
It would also be awesome to summarize some of these question and answer sessions. You know you get a 10 + page thread and the answers are a few pages past the questions and it can take hours just to see what's going on. I don't know if anyone has the time to work that? Just a suggestion.
Yeah, the Lazar story is full of interesting things and coincidences and occurrences. Too much to just pass it off as one more scam artist. From the Elements, to the test flights that he knew about that were actually documented, to his inside knowledge of the bases, to the government denying that he worked at Los Alamos to proof showing he did, to his contracts with the government, and on and on and on. There is some serious craziness going on with his story.