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originally posted by: Springer
My pal George Knapp finally convinced Bob Lazar to get in front of the camera one more time, on the 25th anniversary of his telling the world about the alien technology he believed was(is) at Area 51. No matter what you think of Bob's story there's no denying it was a huge story heard around the world 25 years ago this week, and it's still a pretty big story in Ufology to this day.
I've never really been able to decide what I believe about Bob Lazar, I vacillate between thinking he conned the world to accepting there are way too many undeniable elements that support what he says to poo poo it off.
You can see the interviews (2 parts) here:
I can ask George back on for an "Ask Me Anything" on this if you all think it would be interesting and valuable.
originally posted by: 38181
originally posted by: ipsedixit
a reply to: 38181
Bob, like Adair, is a great storyteller.
Is the government sneaky enough to fly helicopter drones with bright lights on them above Area 51 at night, just to play tricks on people? I like Lazar but his story is hard to figure out.
I guess;...If the government is sneaky enough to spy on allied governments and their ( US) own citizens then yes, they are capable of anything as ridiculous as it may seem.
originally posted by: gortex
Not really , Victor was Bob Dean.
originally posted by: torsion
a reply to: chunder
So you think it's a coincidence that Lazar's Sports Model is lamp shade shaped, has three manoeuvrable anti gravity devices on the base and a central column, and Adamski's fake Scout Ship is a lamp shade, has three manoeuvrable "anti gravity devices" on the base and a central column?
Such a shame that a long time ATS member like yourself buys into this kind of nonsense.
originally posted by: torsion
Lazar based his "Sports Model" design on Adamski's Scout Ship. Adamski has now been conclusively debunked so Lazar gets debunked by association.
originally posted by: chunder
To call Lazar's sports model lamp shade shaped is a nonsense, show people the outline and I doubt many are going to say lamp shade.
Secondly Lazar's sports model does not have 3 visible domes on the bottom
and thirdly the central column in the Adamski scout ship is from a fictional back-engineering attempt.
Therefore there is no coincidence because they aren't actually the same
As I asked in response to you in the linked previous thread do you also attribute these other pics to a gas lantern ?
Now I'm not disputing that the picture used in that thread wasn't the top of a gas lantern but I think it would be too simple to then discredit every claim from Adamski, let alone anything else that follows that looks remotely similar.
originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
Pointing out the obvious and what has already been said... No doubt to me that Lazars Testor S4 Sport Model is an exact copy of Meirs photograph. That are almost identical down to the number of rings underneath, to the dark ring below the windows. He stated in an Art Bell interview what he saw- "looked exactly like that" referring to the Testors model he helped design.