It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
MaidanOnline @MaidanOnline · 2m
Summary of Events in Odesa: May 2, 2014 wp.me... fb.me...
a reply to: SubTruth
You mention redistributing wealth.........STEALING. And then you mention how it will lead to a free market. Are you guys for real or what?
originally posted by: BobAthome
a reply to: Xcathdra
i glady and freely admit too "making accusations" ,,that there were indeed Waffen SS in the Ukraine, both during the atrocities, which included "rounding people up" ,but hey does that count?
no i'm sorry u dont get a pass on supporting the Genocide of a People, just cause u don't believe that they are indeed special.
Ruptly @Ruptly · 2m
'Russia and Ukraine are Slavic brothers', says ukrainian priest ow.ly...
Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR · 5m
Ukrainian Americans Rally for #Ukraine #DC May 3 Photo Album on.fb.me... | EMPR pic.twitter.com/FQRNXajv82
Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR · 13m
Ukrainian Americans protest against #Putin at #Russian Embassy #DC 5/3 http://(link tracking not allowed)/1nforo8 |EMPR #Ukraine
RT @RT_com · 14m
#Ukraine can’t guarantee full transit of gas to Europe, warns Russian energy minister on.rt.com...
US Mission to NATO @USNATO · 31m
The Standing NATO Mine Countermeasures Group, side by side, in the Baltic Sea | More at www.mc.nato.int... pic.twitter.com/AbJxKfzVGQ
CNN International @cnni · 33m
Putin has gone too far dlvr.it...
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: BobAthome
a reply to: Xcathdra
www.abovetopsecret.com...
"The soccer fans were unarmed" soccer fans unarmed,,LOLOLOLOLOLOLO,, ya right.
Are you not capable of anything more than a liar liar pants on fire response?
Should the incident not be investigated? Should those responsible not be held accountable?
Or should we ignore it all because you find part of the story funny?
originally posted by: victor7
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Xcathdra
As i said im seeing more and more attacks on Ukrainian oligarchs. Even the govenor Vladimir Nemirovsky of Odessa Region in Odessa is a steel magnet. And Pro Russians are calling for his resignation. They burn the bank owned by another i mentioned earlier Kolomoysky having his main office torched for his company. Then Kerns was shot and almost killed while jogging. Behind the scenes we have a private war going on against Ukrainian oligarchs not to mention anotheris ahead in the polls likely to be next president.
And why not !! What happened in 1990s is as follows:
Former Soviet Union split apart and threw away state ownership of assets in one evening.
State assets were put on sale.
General population had no money.
Jews had contacts with Jewish bankers overseas.
They quickly arranged foreign loans and bribed their way to buy state assets
State assets brought at throw away prices like for dime on a dollar
As economies gained stability somewhat these assets exploded in prices
Soon there were billionaires propping up everywhere
Showing the value of these assets, they were able to get more loans
Using these "new" loans they bought other industries and became...............
OLIGARCHS !!!!!!!!!!
Most of these oligarch are Jewish as they had access to funds through global Jewish cabal i.e. mafia like bankers
ps: I have nothing against the Jews but everything against those Jews who looted Russia in 1990s.
ps2: Once Ukraine is settles, Putin should take these companies from the Oligarchs and find a more fair way to redistribute assets to general people. Then real free market economics will take place.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BobAthome
I cant.. Pro Russian forces are preventing me from entering the area.
I am assuming you were able to pass through and do your own investigation?
Also is this where we are at now? you making accusations and instead of supporting them posting crap with snide remarks that make no sense? Let me know would you please?
Secondly, how does the incident in Odessa answer my question about your logic of death camps in Ukraine and death camps in Russia? Please explain.
Updates from Odessa
MaidanOnline @MaidanOnline · 2m
Summary of Events in Odesa: May 2, 2014 wp.me... fb.me...
Blogger -- Yevhen Ikhelzon
"Despite the fact that the unrest in Ukraine is directed from abroad, Ukrainians need national reconciliation."
Satirical blogger -- Roman Shrayk
"It it's confirmed that most of the victims are actually not from Odessa, then this will certainly mean that this was a special [Russian] operation gone awry."
Military journalist -- Dmitry Tymchuk
"From late April, the sabotage groups of Russian special services and groups of provocateurs were tasked to infiltrate Ukraine and work with local pro-Russian separatists to destabilise the situation in the south, mainly in Odessa. However, the beginning of the active phase of the antiterrorist operation in Sloviansk prompted the Russian leadership to rush things in south Ukraine and Ukrainian security services to urgently relocate forces from Donetsk region. We witnessed the tragic outcome of this monstrous act of provocation in Odessa yesterday."
Human right activist -- Serhiy Naumovych
"This was Nord-Ost in Odessa. Dozens of people were poisoned by gas and died. This time, by carbon monoxide. The culprit is the same."
Espreso TV presenter -- Oleksandr Holubov
"Forgive me, but I cannot feel sorry at all for the separatists in Odessa. There is and there cannot be any joy, but I am struggling to find any sympathy."
Kiev journalist -- Serhiy Vysotskyy
"As a human being, I am sorry for the people who died in the Trade Unions House. Maybe they became mercenaries because they were having a difficult life or out of stupidity or because they were genuine patriots of Russia. They had their loved ones, children, parents. But they came to Odessa with a sword and eventually died from a sword. I am sorry for them, but they wished death for my country and, therefore, made Ukraine defend itself. Killing in self-defence is not murder. But I also condemn jubilation over these deaths."
Moscow says they are Ukrainians and not part of the Russian armed forces, as the so-called green men in Crimea turned out to be.
Western officials and the Ukrainian government insist that Russians have led, organized and equipped the fighters.
A deeper look at the 12th Company — during more than a week of visiting its checkpoints, interviewing its fighters and observing them in action against a Ukrainian military advance here on Friday — shows that in its case neither portrayal captures the full story.
The rebels of the 12th Company appear to be Ukrainians but, like many in the region, have deep ties to and affinity for Russia. They are veterans of the Soviet, Ukrainian or Russian Armies, and some have families on the other side of the border. Theirs is a tangled mix of identities and loyalties.
Further complicating the picture, while the fighters share a passionate distrust of Ukraine’s government and the Western powers that support it, they disagree among themselves about their ultimate goals. They argue about whether Ukraine should redistribute power via greater federalization or whether the region should be annexed by Russia, and they harbor different views about which side might claim Kiev, the capital, and even about where the border of a divided Ukraine might lie.
originally posted by: ProfessorT
Expect a proper Russian invasion any minute...
@PaulaSlier_RT: 3 members of the self-defense forces & 2 civilians have died during the military operation in #Slavyansk, acc to the city’s People’s mayor
Instead of trolling try and add something to the thread. Thanks.
originally posted by: Yusomad
originally posted by: ProfessorT
Expect a proper Russian invasion any minute...
@PaulaSlier_RT: 3 members of the self-defense forces & 2 civilians have died during the military operation in #Slavyansk, acc to the city’s People’s mayor
You have been parroting this line for a long time now, something to support it now or just more feramongering?
@PierreCrom: ProRus military convoy of 4 armored vehicles and 30/40 soldiers heading north #sloviansk #ukraine #donbass
PaulaSlier_RT @PaulaSlier_RT
Estimates say 69 ppl have died since the beginning of #Kiev's military action in #Ukraine.#Odessa:46,#Slavyansk:12,#Kramatorsk:10,#Lugansk:1
Russian engineering troops started organizing additional ferry service between the ports of the "Caucasus" (city Temruk ) and "Crimea" (Kerch) . On this Sunday, May 4, the ITAR- TASS referring to the press service of the management information and the Russian Defense Ministry .
Now experts perform measurements of the width , depth and flow rate of the Kerch Strait where will ferry and explore the coastline and equipment driveways and crossovers . By engineering exploration ground near the shoreline brought military divers .
In the near future , engineers will begin unloading pontoon crossing equipment arrived on the Black Sea coast with Vladimir, Rostov and Volgograd regions .
The Defense Ministry expects that the new crossing will significantly improve transport and freight to the Crimea in the holiday season . Its composition will involve four ferries , each capable of heavy vehicles pass six or more than 20 cars. Construction time crossing the Office did not say.
Now operating a ferry across the Kerch Strait from May 1 until the end of the holiday season refocused only for passenger transport . Before the May holidays port "Caucasus" in Stavropol , which was the main crossing point of Russians in Crimea, no longer cope with the influx of tourists. Executive ferry to Crimea
Nazi plans to build a bridge linking the Crimean region of Ukraine to Russia look set to be revived after Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev created a company to take on the project.
The proposed bridge would span the the Strait of Kerch between the Chushka Spit in Russia and the Kerch Peninsula in Ukraine, giving Russia one of only three major entrance points to the strategic Crimean peninsula - the others being the M17 and M18 motorways from mainland Ukraine.
The idea for a bridge linking the countries was originally conceived by German architect Albert Speer during the Second World War in the hope it would aid the German invasion of the North Caucasus.
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...# ixzz30jt8xSRm
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
PaulaSlier_RT @PaulaSlier_RT
#Lvov (Western #Ukraine):Unidentified ppl reportedly torched the roof of the Russian Center acc. to the Russian media
Ukraine Reporter @StateOfUkraine
Source: goal of #Ukraine's anti-terror operation was to halt separatist momentum. Defeating them completely unrealistic in very short term
BERLIN, Germany - Dozens of specialists from the US Central Intelligence Agency and Federal Bureau of Investigation are advising the Ukrainian government, a German newspaper reported Sunday, May 4.
Citing unnamed German security sources, Bild am Sonntag said the CIA and FBI agents were helping Kiev end the rebellion in the east of Ukraine and set up a functioning security structure.