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TritonTaranis
DJMSN
I believe your title is misleading as Russia has never declared war on the Ukraine but the exact opposite, it is the Ukraine stating the Russian troops on the ground are tantamount to Russia declaring war.
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Have you forgotten that Russia troops have surrounded Ukrainian military installations penning them in IN THERE OWN COUNTRY?
Have you forgot the Ukrainian government has asked countless times for Russia not to interviewed and withdraw along with the EU and the US ?
It's like your totally ignoring the illegal occupation of Ukraine and UN law
Sheesh some people are hard work
ABNARTY
Gaining some perspective altitude on this, three great posts which helped me get a foothold here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Thanks Bassago and ThePublicEnemyNo1
Try this viewpoint out: the west (read bankster controlled) has been courting Ukraine for some time. Russia see's this a threat to their interests in the region. Crimea holds many Russians and Russian military facilities. If Ukraine goes, the Crimea is not going with them. As Russia makes a move, Ukraine reaches out to those who have been selling them the Kool Aid for years. They put the oligarchs in power. A move orchestrated to demonstrate their willingness to play ball.
Honestly, I think the EU/US/et al do not want military action in the region. The oil flows from Russia. Without the oil, the pipelines generate no profit. Perhaps this was a miscalculation on their part. Putin and Russia are demonstrating they will not roll over on this one. NIMBY! Maybe they would accept the East/West partition but the cabal will pay for it. Kind of like if corporations had military's.
...what am I saying? That's exactly what this is.
Alright ATS, where am I screwed up?
Dolby_X
Can we focus on Russia and Ukrain ? Isreal Iran Korea, Nuke etc... a least wait untill these contry have said something about the situation even China is still silent .edit on 2-3-2014 by Dolby_X because: (no reason given)
Dolby_X
We, the leaders of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States and the President of the European Council and President of the European Commission, join together today to condemn the Russian Federation’s clear violation of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, in contravention of Russia’s obligations under the UN Charter and its 1997 basing agreement with Ukraine. We call on Russia to address any ongoing security or human rights concerns that it has with Ukraine through direct negotiations, and/or via international observation or mediation under the auspices of the UN or the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. We stand ready to assist with these efforts.
more at the link www.whitehouse.gov...
We are united in supporting Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and its right to choose its own future. We commit ourselves to support Ukraine in its efforts to restore unity, stability, and political and economic health to the country. To that end, we will support Ukraine’s work with the International Monetary Fund to negotiate a new program and to implement needed reforms. IMF support will be critical in unlocking additional assistance from the World Bank, other international financial institutions, the EU, and bilateral sources.
KingJod
ABNARTY
Gaining some perspective altitude on this, three great posts which helped me get a foothold here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Thanks Bassago and ThePublicEnemyNo1
Try this viewpoint out: the west (read bankster controlled) has been courting Ukraine for some time. Russia see's this a threat to their interests in the region. Crimea holds many Russians and Russian military facilities. If Ukraine goes, the Crimea is not going with them. As Russia makes a move, Ukraine reaches out to those who have been selling them the Kool Aid for years. They put the oligarchs in power. A move orchestrated to demonstrate their willingness to play ball.
Honestly, I think the EU/US/et al do not want military action in the region. The oil flows from Russia. Without the oil, the pipelines generate no profit. Perhaps this was a miscalculation on their part. Putin and Russia are demonstrating they will not roll over on this one. NIMBY! Maybe they would accept the East/West partition but the cabal will pay for it. Kind of like if corporations had military's.
...what am I saying? That's exactly what this is.
Alright ATS, where am I screwed up?
Strategy wise its actually very important to the United States. It is Russia's back door, same way Hitler came in. Like you said they control that pipeline and I think the EU is tired of the threat that they can shut it off at anytime. Again, I think this may be a war for oil and also a strategic placement of a US base.
LookAtThisMarsRock
Unconfirmed. Poland mobilizing.
Liveleak video
There is construction equipment on the train, so maybe just fortifying border?
LookAtThisMarsRock
Unconfirmed. Poland mobilizing.
Liveleak video
There is construction equipment on the train, so maybe just fortifying border?