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renden
dragonridr
Russia isnt a federation its a dictatorship
When is the last time you been to Russia?
Overnight, AFP reported that Russian forces have begun a gradual withdrawal from the Ukrainian border, citing a Russian defense ministry official. "In recent days, the Russian forces have been gradually withdrawing from the border," the Ukrainian defence ministry's general staff spokesman Oleksiy Dmytrashkivskiy said in a telephone interview. Moments ago, Reuters confirmed this story:
RUSSIAN DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS ONE INFANTRY BATTALION IS WITHDRAWING FROM REGION NEAR UKRAINIAN BORDER - RUSSIAN STATE NEWS AGENCIES
And Bloomberg added:
RUSSIA: PLATOON HEADING BACK TO SAMARA REGION FROM ROSTOV: RIA
RUSSIAN PLATOON RELOCATING AFTER DRILL IN ROSTOV REGION: RIA
zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by dragonridr
So you said federations doesn't work.
Well I guess you didn't know or you weren't provided with relevant material that the US is also a federation, Germany too and so on.
Further, you want all federally regulated states to have central power, which I told you that those are characteristics of dictatorships.
So not only you're in support of dictatorships now you're uncovering your fascists feelings by telling me all regional governments needs to be dismantled in favor of one central gov.
Keep diggin the hole mate, I have nothing against that, it's only harming you.
dragonridr
zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by dragonridr
So you said federations doesn't work.
Well I guess you didn't know or you weren't provided with relevant material that the US is also a federation, Germany too and so on.
Further, you want all federally regulated states to have central power, which I told you that those are characteristics of dictatorships.
So not only you're in support of dictatorships now you're uncovering your fascists feelings by telling me all regional governments needs to be dismantled in favor of one central gov.
Keep diggin the hole mate, I have nothing against that, it's only harming you.
Well if your going to use such a broad definition the Roman Empire who aquired there states by force also applies. Oh and lets not forget the soviet Union was a federation. As they say grow up. What Russia wants is independent areas they can deal with instead of one government. This way they simply exclude the parts of Ukraine they dont want to deal with but apparently you cant figure out why they're pushing for it.
demus
demus
ProfessorT
Russia Today were covering a rally in Ukraine yesterday. They blatantly lied about the number of pro-Russian people who attended. They said "1 million people" and the pictures taken showed a group of 50-100 people. Russian propaganda is so bad, it's funny. They are just cementing Vladimir Putin's pretext.
asen_y2k
Over 2,000 people demand referendum at rally in east-Ukrainian city of Lugansk, and 3000 in Donetsk.
Voice of Russia
Seems like only Russian media covering this.edit on 30/3/14 by asen_y2k because: (no reason given)
1 million people?
care to provide some more information on this one?
I was trying to find where exactly RT said this?
or you're just making things up?
proffesor T, please reply.
ProfessorT
There are reports that three men, including the Deputy Mayor have been shot in Kiev tonight. Reports on Twitter seem to suggest Right Sector are to blame. The three men were reportedly in a restaurant called 'Mafia'. From what I can gather this news has just broke in the last 30 minutes or so.
demus
dragonridr
zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by dragonridr
So you said federations doesn't work.
Well I guess you didn't know or you weren't provided with relevant material that the US is also a federation, Germany too and so on.
Further, you want all federally regulated states to have central power, which I told you that those are characteristics of dictatorships.
So not only you're in support of dictatorships now you're uncovering your fascists feelings by telling me all regional governments needs to be dismantled in favor of one central gov.
Keep diggin the hole mate, I have nothing against that, it's only harming you.
Well if your going to use such a broad definition the Roman Empire who aquired there states by force also applies. Oh and lets not forget the soviet Union was a federation. As they say grow up. What Russia wants is independent areas they can deal with instead of one government. This way they simply exclude the parts of Ukraine they dont want to deal with but apparently you cant figure out why they're pushing for it.
Russian Federation consist of 46 oblast, 22 republics, 9 krais, 4 autonomus okrugs, 3 federal cities, 1 autonomus oblast.
Such a huge country is probably best managed from a single center and as a dictatorship, I don't know what were those Russians thinking when they organized their country as a federation.
ProfessorT
There are reports that three men, including the Deputy Mayor have been shot in Kiev tonight. Reports on Twitter seem to suggest Right Sector are to blame. The three men were reportedly in a restaurant called 'Mafia'. From what I can gather this news has just broke in the last 30 minutes or so.
ProfessorT
There are now lots of pictures popping up on a Twitter of heavily armed Special Forces surrounding the alleged unofficial headquarters of Right Sector and additional reports of medics going inside. I really hope Ukraine doesn't capitulate into civil war.
dragonridr
demus
dragonridr
zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by dragonridr
So you said federations doesn't work.
Well I guess you didn't know or you weren't provided with relevant material that the US is also a federation, Germany too and so on.
Further, you want all federally regulated states to have central power, which I told you that those are characteristics of dictatorships.
So not only you're in support of dictatorships now you're uncovering your fascists feelings by telling me all regional governments needs to be dismantled in favor of one central gov.
Keep diggin the hole mate, I have nothing against that, it's only harming you.
Well if your going to use such a broad definition the Roman Empire who aquired there states by force also applies. Oh and lets not forget the soviet Union was a federation. As they say grow up. What Russia wants is independent areas they can deal with instead of one government. This way they simply exclude the parts of Ukraine they dont want to deal with but apparently you cant figure out why they're pushing for it.
Russian Federation consist of 46 oblast, 22 republics, 9 krais, 4 autonomus okrugs, 3 federal cities, 1 autonomus oblast.
Such a huge country is probably best managed from a single center and as a dictatorship, I don't know what were those Russians thinking when they organized their country as a federation.
And what happens when an area decides to leave? See Russia is a dictatorship dont cross Putin by wanting independence from Russia. Putin sends in military and kills woman and children when they are shopping.
On 21 October 1999, a Russian short-range ballistic missile strike on the central Grozny killed more than 140 people, including many women and children, and left hundreds more wounded. Eight days later Russian aircraft carried out a rocket attack on a large convoy of refugees heading into Ingushetia, killing at least 25 civilians including Red Cross workers and journalists.[75] Two days later the Russian forces conducted a heavy artillery and rocket attack on Samashki. Some claimed that civilians were killed in Samashki in revenge for the heavy casualties suffered there by Russian forces during the first war.
Yeah Russian federation is so friendly they use force to keep all those republics in line so is it really a federation? If Putin decides what they do and when they do it by threat of force i believe thats what Dictators do. Oh and in case they left this out of your history book feel free to read this.
en.wikipedia.org...
ProfessorT
There are now lots of pictures popping up on a Twitter of heavily armed Special Forces surrounding the alleged unofficial headquarters of Right Sector and additional reports of medics going inside. I really hope Ukraine doesn't capitulate into civil war.
demus
dragonridr
demus
dragonridr
zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by dragonridr
So you said federations doesn't work.
Well I guess you didn't know or you weren't provided with relevant material that the US is also a federation, Germany too and so on.
Further, you want all federally regulated states to have central power, which I told you that those are characteristics of dictatorships.
So not only you're in support of dictatorships now you're uncovering your fascists feelings by telling me all regional governments needs to be dismantled in favor of one central gov.
Keep diggin the hole mate, I have nothing against that, it's only harming you.
Well if your going to use such a broad definition the Roman Empire who aquired there states by force also applies. Oh and lets not forget the soviet Union was a federation. As they say grow up. What Russia wants is independent areas they can deal with instead of one government. This way they simply exclude the parts of Ukraine they dont want to deal with but apparently you cant figure out why they're pushing for it.
Russian Federation consist of 46 oblast, 22 republics, 9 krais, 4 autonomus okrugs, 3 federal cities, 1 autonomus oblast.
Such a huge country is probably best managed from a single center and as a dictatorship, I don't know what were those Russians thinking when they organized their country as a federation.
And what happens when an area decides to leave? See Russia is a dictatorship dont cross Putin by wanting independence from Russia. Putin sends in military and kills woman and children when they are shopping.
On 21 October 1999, a Russian short-range ballistic missile strike on the central Grozny killed more than 140 people, including many women and children, and left hundreds more wounded. Eight days later Russian aircraft carried out a rocket attack on a large convoy of refugees heading into Ingushetia, killing at least 25 civilians including Red Cross workers and journalists.[75] Two days later the Russian forces conducted a heavy artillery and rocket attack on Samashki. Some claimed that civilians were killed in Samashki in revenge for the heavy casualties suffered there by Russian forces during the first war.
Yeah Russian federation is so friendly they use force to keep all those republics in line so is it really a federation? If Putin decides what they do and when they do it by threat of force i believe thats what Dictators do. Oh and in case they left this out of your history book feel free to read this.
en.wikipedia.org...
what would happen if militants organized in the USA asking for independence and territory?
I know very well about Chechen Wars but you should acknowledge who the other side is.
how would USA fight insurgency?
what if a strategically important area of USA "decides to leave"; government would probably send in flower throwers to celebrate an event?
Im fully aware of Russia sins but your black - and - white point of view is very naive to say the least.
demus
renden
dragonridr
Russia isnt a federation its a dictatorship
When is the last time you been to Russia?
probably never.
but all of the "news reports" couldn't be wrong, Russia must be a very nasty place.
dragonridr
demus
dragonridr
zilebeliveunknown
reply to post by dragonridr
So you said federations doesn't work.
Well I guess you didn't know or you weren't provided with relevant material that the US is also a federation, Germany too and so on.
Further, you want all federally regulated states to have central power, which I told you that those are characteristics of dictatorships.
So not only you're in support of dictatorships now you're uncovering your fascists feelings by telling me all regional governments needs to be dismantled in favor of one central gov.
Keep diggin the hole mate, I have nothing against that, it's only harming you.
Well if your going to use such a broad definition the Roman Empire who aquired there states by force also applies. Oh and lets not forget the soviet Union was a federation. As they say grow up. What Russia wants is independent areas they can deal with instead of one government. This way they simply exclude the parts of Ukraine they dont want to deal with but apparently you cant figure out why they're pushing for it.
Russian Federation consist of 46 oblast, 22 republics, 9 krais, 4 autonomus okrugs, 3 federal cities, 1 autonomus oblast.
Such a huge country is probably best managed from a single center and as a dictatorship, I don't know what were those Russians thinking when they organized their country as a federation.
And what happens when an area decides to leave? See Russia is a dictatorship dont cross Putin by wanting independence from Russia. Putin sends in military and kills woman and children when they are shopping.
On 21 October 1999, a Russian short-range ballistic missile strike on the central Grozny killed more than 140 people, including many women and children, and left hundreds more wounded. Eight days later Russian aircraft carried out a rocket attack on a large convoy of refugees heading into Ingushetia, killing at least 25 civilians including Red Cross workers and journalists.[75] Two days later the Russian forces conducted a heavy artillery and rocket attack on Samashki. Some claimed that civilians were killed in Samashki in revenge for the heavy casualties suffered there by Russian forces during the first war.
Yeah Russian federation is so friendly they use force to keep all those republics in line so is it really a federation? If Putin decides what they do and when they do it by threat of force i believe thats what Dictators do. Oh and in case they left this out of your history book feel free to read this.
en.wikipedia.org...
Oh looky at those bad Russians fighting a war on terror against Muslin terrorists, USA would never bomb innocent people, that job is reserved for American drones, Apache gunships, white phosphorous, A-10 / spookys and B-52 carpet bombing strikes, which are totally democratic because all those strikes take place thousands of miles away from USA, but Russian strikes are like evil and stuff because their strikes are INSIDE Russia. That's right, Chechen terrorists inside Russia deserve Red Cross, Human Rights International, United Nations and so forth, but anti-American terrorists everywhere including the Moon must be immediately and democratically blown up by remote strikes.