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Only two things will trigger a Russian invasion of Ukraine. If the Ukrainian government suppresses eastern Ukraine with military force, or if Ukraine becomes unstable. Stability of Ukraine will not be known until after the May elections. Yatsenyuk took two positive steps. He addressed the nation in Russian, and he said he will not agree to the EU demand to close manufacturing in eastern Ukraine. There is no valid reason to close factories that sell to Russia. Invading Ukraine will exact high costs to the Russian economy, and they will only invade if they feel they have no choice.
Once the full impact of the EU imposed austerity is felt, Ukraine could become unstable. A better choice would be to follow Iceland. Default on the loans, and maintain independence.
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So in case an Invasion is imminent, tonight would be perfect for such.. although I think that is unlikely in light of the recent info shared in this thread
According to this gentleman's blog there has been "reinforced security measures" in Trubchevsk in Bryansk. Residents are saying the city was surrounded by troops who are patrolling the area. Bryansk has been the scene of a lot of military activity including field hospitals and command centres being set up.edit on 30-3-2014 by ProfessorT because: (no reason given)
BBC Breaking News: Ukraine denounces Russian foreign minister's call for neutral and federal Ukraine as demand for "full capitulation" bbc.in/1h8OxDa 21 mins ago.
Rogers: Troop movement, 'covert operation' suggests Putin not finished in Ukraine
Russian president also is engaged in a more “covert operation” by sending intelligence officers and special forces into eastern Ukraine to try to convince citizens to allow Russia to annex their country, like Putin did with Ukraine’s Crimea region earlier this month.
Beyond assembling military armor and tens of thousands of troops along the Russia-Ukraine border, Putin is moving troops in northern Georgia and planting intelligence officers in Ukraine, the Michigan Republican told “Fox News Sunday.”
Sergei Lavrov is just trying to spin things again, much like he's been doing all throughout this anti-West campaign and against Ukraine without any basis or facts. If the US agree to any sort of federalisation it would be an embarrassment for the international community as a whole. You cannot simply agree to the demands of an aggressor in the case of Russia. Russia wants to take control of Ukraine by demanding autonomy.
And here we go:
BBC Breaking News @bbcnews_ticker Ukraine denounces Russian foreign minister's call for neutral and federal Ukraine as demand for "full capitulation" bbc.in/1h8OxDa 21 mins ago 7 retweets |
On September 22nd, Chamberlain flew to Bad Godesberg to meet Hitler so that the final details of the plan could be worked out. At this meeting Hitler made new demands that took Chamberlain by surprise. Hitler wanted German troops to occupy the Sudetenland. He also demanded that land containing a majority of Poles and Magyars should also be returned to Poland and Hungary. Britain and France rejected these demands and both the French and British governments prepared for war. At the suggestion of Mussolini, a four-power conference was held to resolve the problems. This was the third meeting which was held at Munich. Germany, Britain, France and Italy were represented - Czechoslovakia was not. Neither was the Soviet Union, which greatly angered its leader, Joseph Stalin.
A couple of thousands of pro-Russian activists attacked the few supporters of the Ukrainian revolution in the center of Odessa. The incident occurred at about 17.00, writes Interfax-Ukraine . Pro-Russian column intersected with several dozen pro Ukrainian protesters on one of the main streets of the city, resulting in having contractions. Police did not give the pro-Russian activists crush soldiers' self-Square "which stood at the monument to Duke. "Samooboronschiky" Potemkin Stairs went on the coastal street, reports Duma . According to the newspaper, the police held a special position at Duke to enable participants to safely disperse a rally in support of the independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine. As a result, civilians with Ukrainian flags are not affected by the aggressive actions of participants in the pro-Russian rally. On the Promenade, there were several skirmishes, but there were no injuries. Number of participants shares in Odessa for and against the unity of Ukraine was about the same - 2-3 thousand.
The participants bicycle race "For United Ukraine" was attacked by unknown. According to Channel 5, it happened 40 km from Donetsk. For athletes attacked pro-Russian youths who jumped out of the two cars. They began to threaten the activists potroschyly Ukraine flags and national symbols. Also, threatening physical harm is not recommended cyclists turn to Donetsk. Participants undertook a marathon police escort.
In Donetsk, the pro-Russian rally participants stormed the railway station building. According to Channel 5, they tried to get on the train tracks and platforms and block the movement of trains. According to them, today in Kyiv should take separatists arrested. Chanting "Russia", the activists of the Russian tricolor and placards "Yanukovych, come and take away our" plan to prevent the movement of trains Lviv Mariupol and Kyiv-Donetsk. As reported LigaBiznesInform police tried to interfere with the actions of activists began detention. As you know, earlier in several cities, including Donetsk gone pro meetings . Party "Russian bloc" held a meeting of citizens demanding a referendum on the future status determination Donbass.
In Kharkov, announced plans to create a Southeast republic
In Kharkov at a rally in support federalization of Ukraine announced the organization of a new social movement "South-East".
"This movement will seek to create Southeast federal republic within Ukraine with extended powers and wide autonomy, and providing official status of the Russian language," - said the coordinator of the Civil Society Forum in Kharkiv Yuri Apukhtin, cites Interfax-Ukraine.
He said, "South-East" brings together some 30 NGOs in Kharkiv, including "United Russia", "Essence of Time", "Rus triune" and others.
"Now negotiations with Lugansk and Donetsk to combine our efforts," - said Apukhtin.
"We are all heirs of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog, Odessa and republics. That we, not some nedobyti Banderas, and we were the backbone of our country," - he read an appeal.
"We offer combine forces southeast, a steering committee and a united front to oppose the coup (in Kiev)," - said in a statement, reports ITAR-TASS .
"His place in this country we see as Southeast autonomy, which was discovered", - stated in the document.
Member of the "right market" Igor Mazur (Poplar) from the stage on Independence Square said that Interior Minister Arsen Avakov should resign because of the death of Alexander Muzychka and slow the i vestigation into the killings.
Russia Today were covering a rally in Ukraine yesterday. They blatantly lied about the number of pro-Russian people who attended. They said "1 million people" and the pictures taken showed a group of 50-100 people. Russian propaganda is so bad, it's funny. They are just cementing Vladimir Putin's pretext.
Over 2,000 people demand referendum at rally in east-Ukrainian city of Lugansk, and 3000 in Donetsk.
Voice of Russia
Seems like only Russian media covering this.edit on 30/3/14 by asen_y2k because: (no reason given)
1 million people?
care to provide some more information on this one?
I was trying to find where exactly RT said this?
or you're just making things up?