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reply to post by ArchAngel_X
While I do support an increase in minimum wage (in principal) to close the gap created in the ever-increasing cost of living,
reply to post by Cabin
There will always be people, who however hard they work, can never achieve anything greater than the menial routine-based job, simply due their genetics, health or some other reasons (roughly 10-15% of the society). Should they suffer for the rest of their lives?
TeThat is something I personally do not believe in. With today´s technology and knowledge, such things should be inexistent. Anybody born into an advanced nation should never starve or live in poverty, not even talking about a working person. The problem does not even lie in the actual value of the work, but the companies competing for the lowest price and one of the ways of doing it is by paying people less. The lower the personnel cost, the higher the advantage against opponents, as majority of people go for the lowest prices. Even when the personnel was paid fairly, the prices would not rise significantly so other people can´t afford them.
I would not say paying livable wage is throwing money at somebody. Somebody needs to do such jobs anyways, as long as robots don´t take over. I can not even imagine what will happen when automation reaches service sector.
Currently the low prices in retail are solely dependent on two factors -underpaid employees and Chinese Asian labour, who are underpaid even by the standards there.
There are solutions to the problems, besides throwing money. Stronger education system, where everybody has right for very strong public school education is one of the ways many countries deal with situations like that, as well as setting minimum salaries dependent on the minimum needed for monthly life, including reasonable quality food.
At the end paying under the livable wage people is damaging the economy as a whole leading to significant productivity loss in long term. At some point the bad nutrition and overworking will start to damage the health of these people and this will lead to significant productivity loss, even when the people have come out of the hole.
opethPA
I hope these people protesting their wages get a the raise they need but I also hope I don't have to read about other people complaining when companies raise their prices to compensate for the employee raises.
NavyDoc
How many of these "protesters" were actual workers and how many were the usual suspects of leftist activists and "community organizers" and professional protestors?
LDragonFire
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palmalBlue2
beezzer
I just pointed out that the workers actually want to get paid more than the owner of the franchise.
Anyone notice?
I did. and yes, the people I know that are pushing for the 15 min. wage are wanting specifically 15 because thats how much they would need to make to make up for the loss of gov. assistance.
An 8 min wage job would not even begin to cover what they would have to pay out themselves if kicked off assistance.
Pretty sad state of affairs this country is in when one can make a better living off the assistance.
So you want the workers to be paid as much or more than the ones who create the business and hire the people?
You are stating as fact that all franchise owners only make $14.80 and hour?
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pavil
NavyDoc
How many of these "protesters" were actual workers and how many were the usual suspects of leftist activists and "community organizers" and professional protestors?
I was wondering that myself. SEIU was probably there in force, remember those charming folks from the the last few years?