CHILLING - New Air Force commercial - what does it mean?

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by pikypiky

 

I thought it was neat also. You have to admit,it looks like a trailer for a video game though.....

That is exactly the problem. War is not a video game. The end of the world does not have a reset button. Human causalities on the level of destruction that is portrayed in this commercial would be a non factor in a catastrophe of the this size for the US government. Those people would have died and nobody would be around to hear there screams. This is well known and I won't dispute the obvious dramatization of the ad for the purpose of recruitment.

The problem is.... And still remains that this type of scenario is presented to us by our own government. If everything is simply status quo, why show this type of propaganda to the whole of the American public? Any one who says this is simple sensationalism for basic recruitment has not seen the whole picture of recent events in my opinion.

I will preface my post by saying "guilty" as in "I am guilty, I am not reading through all the posts before posting"

That being said, this commercial is blending science fiction and reality. It is NOT saying "we have planes that transform, come work on these bad boys!" Its saying "as far out as some of the stuff you have heard about what we do in the military, some of it is what we actually do" IE.. medvac.

The "doomsday" appeal is certainly there for the affect of the population living in what I can only describe as a sense of growing mass hysteria for this 2012 date. Whether or not anything will happen, I do not know, and I doubt 99.99999999999999% of the population KNOWS, if not 100%

Originally posted by Helious


That is exactly the problem. War is not a video game. The end of the world does not have a reset button. Human causalities on the level of destruction that is portrayed in this commercial would be a non factor in a catastrophe of the this size for the US government. Those people would have died and nobody would be around to hear there screams. This is well known and I won't dispute the obvious dramatization of the ad for the purpose of recruitment.

The problem is.... And still remains that this type of scenario is presented to us by our own government. If everything is simply status quo, why show this type of propaganda to the whole of the American public? Any one who says this is simple sensationalism for basic recruitment has not seen the whole picture of recent events in my opinion.

Star

Hope you didnt take what I said as fluff. I just saw it for what it was,but didnt name it propaganda,cause that was too easy. I try to find the humor in videos like that.

I agree with what you said,wholeheartedly. The video shows a perfect response to a fabricated scenario. Caring and Doctors and Help,all in one. I took it like a video game. Its very well made, with CGI and game type simulations galore. Now,if you want to recruit,Show a Video of the Air Force helping Haiti. Show the wounded from the Earthquake being airlifted to the best hospitals,the US can provide. Show the Army Corp of Engineers rebuilding sturdy Earthquake free homes. You might get more sheeple to join.

Originally posted by seedofchucky
Be Proud of american technology which is used to help the sick

made in China and assembled in Tawain !!!
the only thing truly American in that commercial
is the people. Or maybe not, at the rate
illegal immigrants are joining the service
to get citizenship. They may not be Americans
either.

reply to post by Helious

I'm with you on your take of the strangness factor in this air force commercial. But then, I have thought the military recruiting commercials have been stupid for a while now. It all started with the "Army of One."

Here they are depicting a disaster scene in the US or another developed country. The Air Force is depicted not as a war machine, but an extention of your local EMT's and hospital emergency via high tech. The best all our Treasury can buy! Wouldn't you like to join the Air Force and rescue everyone? But you won't. You will more likely be bombing people and breaking things. You are more likely to be the cause of disaster rather than the rescuer. So it is dishonest and stupid to me.

The way I see it is when they make these commercials they are trying to appeal to the 16 and 17 year olds out there. Those are the people that grew up playing the modern video games. If they can make the commercial appear like a video game or the movie 2012 then they have caught their attention. Next step is the teen thinks it's cool and might think about enlisting to play a real life video game. Remember it's the video game generation.
I definitely see where your coming from but I'm 42 and won't be enlisting any time soon. Now if the next commercial shows them wearing black NWO riot gear and disarming people we might really need to start worrying.

reply to post by Helious


Hi Helious,

Is there a UFO in the vid? Check it out at about 8 seconds into the vid. There's an object that moves across sky in front of the airplane as it approaches the city.



I checked all 5 pages of your thread and didn't see that anyone mentioned it. Maybe it's nothing or something else?

Toni

Originally posted by sara123123
Here they are depicting a disaster scene in the US or another developed country. The Air Force is depicted not as a war machine, but an extension of your local EMT's and hospital emergency via high tech. The best all our Treasury can buy! Wouldn't you like to join the Air Force and rescue everyone? But you won't. You will more likely be bombing people and breaking things. You are more likely to be the cause of disaster rather than the rescuer. So it is dishonest and stupid to me.

exactly !!!

this commercial is a military psy-op
used on young impressionable people
to get recruits. It even lies to them like
the politicians do.

I think if they wanted to really be effective at recruiting, they could begin by showing all the ways how they WON'T throw those recruits under the bridge like they have done with desert storm people (gulf war syndrome)

Or how they plan on owning up to their use of of other contaminants that they have voraciously denied using , so that victims will be denied any disability..

Fix the integrity issues first, then watch people volunteer in droves...They wouldn't need fancy commercials in that case...

The military needs a much better commander in Chief first, in order to accomplish that..

Perhaps an honest and patriotic American could do it...

What a waste of money producing that video. With the current fiscal disaster and ever higher unemployment, there isn´t going to be any recruitment problems at any military or government agency for years to come. This is just another example of "spend it before they take it away". I´d rather see a Youtube video showing a day dreaming kid playing Choplifter.

reply to post by warbird03


War sucks. If thats the case, then they just have bad taste.

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by sara123123
Here they are depicting a disaster scene in the US or another developed country. The Air Force is depicted not as a war machine, but an extension of your local EMT's and hospital emergency via high tech. The best all our Treasury can buy! Wouldn't you like to join the Air Force and rescue everyone? But you won't. You will more likely be bombing people and breaking things. You are more likely to be the cause of disaster rather than the rescuer. So it is dishonest and stupid to me.

exactly !!!

this commercial is a military psy-op
used on young impressionable people
to get recruits. It even lies to them like
the politicians do.

My thoughts exactly. Since when has the US Air Force been tasked with this type of rescue.

I live in a small town with small hospital and even WE have a helicopter pad for EMT's.

Air Force has always been tasked with international, outside our borders, activities.

They certainly failed miserably on 09/11/01 when we, at least, needed Air Force recon. Eyeballs on air threats within our own airspace for once.

We have civilian forces to deal with civilian issues, Thank you very much.

Air Force Medivac is for Air Force EMT's. Who's in charge up there and what were they thinking?

Do they have some punk teenager in charge of PR?

Edit to add: I think Wikileaks (whatever you think of them) had the correct promotional video.

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reply to post by Helious


They've been making them for over a year. The idea is to attract the video game generation.

Kill people in a socially acceptable manner from the comforts of hotheaded superior's mouth. You can rest assured that slaughtering your fellow human being has never been so easy, impersonal, and disgustingly perverse. Join the [insert country] airforce today.

If the airforce was honest, this would be the only sales pitch they could come up with^

This ad makes me want to puke. Literally.
I am being medically retired from the US Air Force . . . as I type this at 21 years in service.
They have managed to bungle my case for over FOUR YEARS.
They have lost my package, fired my case managers, lost my package between bases, and at times I think even hidden my package. I have an attorney and a congressman helping me with my situation.

There is no aircraft like the one depicted in this commercial that is in the works, on the chalk board etc. Instead they are extending the life limits on what they have, they will end up flying the A10 as long as the B52.

The Air Force has always had the reputation of being the "smartest" branch, requiring the highest ASVAB scores. YOU have to chase around the recruiters, not visa versa. They have NO problem meeting the quotas. Why they would make an adverstisement that is a complete and total fabrication . . . is in my opionion:

FRAUD - WASTE - AND ABUSE.
oh and sickening too.

reply to post by alienreality



Believe me they ARE STILL THROWING THEM UNDER THE BUS . . . just like Desert Storm Veterans.
And I am sorry but the Army is the worst, it took Congress to get involved in Walter Reed and the DOD is still not following the letter of the law. They just make waivers for themselves. "Work arounds"
In my former Air Force squadron many of us got very sick, after a nice series of vaccines.
I was lucky, it took a while and I was at a new base when I finally became too ill to wear a uniform.
So no cover up in my case. NO missing records. I copied them myself before admitting my illness.
What they did to my friends at my old unit, borders on the criminal. Removing information from medical records the whole works, I spent 17 years in before becoming ill. I thought those "stories" of people being duped by the Government were the ramblings of loud mouth losers - until I saw it happening to people I knew were anything but. People who were committed to their jobs and serving this country (what ever your opionion of that might be) and most of them had worn a uniform for many years - these were not boot camp malingerers.

The ad would have been more realistic if they would have shown Air Force medical personnel shredding records.
Or the Security Forces standing at the door of the vaccine room - ready to escort you to Legal if you refused the jab. That is FOR REAL.

reply to post by Helious


It's for would be suckers that joining the Military this is closest thing to being in a James Cameron Moofie. It's a long way from reality with no tanks blowing up Milk Factories or Gunships shooting at Camera Men. Are people that Naive to believe that joining the Military is exciting and F U N, with no real emphasis that you can be send home in a Plastic Bag.
I guess if they showed a Field of Tome stones of those died already or a Hospital full of Ex-combatants with Limbs missing that nobody would join, so they do the Opposite.

reply to post by Helious


Its nothing.

Well actually I would call it false advertising.

They are just trying to appeal to the video game generation.

The Navy Slogan was (may be still is)

"its not just a Job."

"Its an adventure."

and after I was in for a few years I added

"And nobody said adventures where fun."

Don't get me wrong, service was a great experience but the advertising is way to romantic.

What a load of propagandistic crap... THE "GOOD" AMERICANS... my ass... take off the army from the countries you invade for their oil and after killing hundreds of thousands of civilians for target practice and then you can sell that propaganda # to your own people. Cause obviously those are the ones who have the brain to believe it anyway.

reply to post by Helious


I do not see the hidden meaning in this. Sometimes its ok to take things at face value.