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Naturally, you can give us a source for that info & evidence too, right?
Originally posted by Archirvion reply to post by triplescorpioI am in germany at the moment-They are right actually..The german goverment has a contract with the us government, to aid them in the hour of martial law-
Originally posted by Redwookieaz
Originally posted by CaptGizmo
I think many that claim martial law is coming need to seriously look at some numbers.
300 million American citizens-500 thousand troops=290 million citizens
Yes they have the fancy weapons...but history has shown us..Superior numbers is the key. Now look at that number of troops. Not all are actual fighting soldiers.
Then remember all of these soldiers have family as well and took an oath to uphold the Constitution. So to many of you poser Anarchist...Martial Law just is not gonna happen.It would be suicide for the military and the politicians,and elite.
Hey there. Math is a smidge off. Just pointing it out. 300 million minus 500 thousand troops doesn't equal 290 million. It equals 299,500,000 people.
oops! Sorry. Trying to do too many things at once!
Originally posted by triplescorpio reply to post by Bunken Drumthet quote you have responded too was my reply to another post i am definately not in germany at the moment im from new york usa ?
Originally posted by jsettica
Martial law might soon be in the US?
There is only one thing that will bring the need to have martial law in the US.
Just think about it, look back at all of the countries that had or have martial law. Can you imagine one day when your government tells you that all that you work for all the money that you have earned is now worthless. Every thing you own is now gone, and when they tell you that 100 gs are now worth 10 buck of new money.
You only need to look at how fast they are printing money to realize that it coming to an end and when it does 200 million people are not going to be happy with there government.
At what price you ask, at a vary high price, US government has run the numbers as to what it might look like after all is said and done. Government will survive as all ways the people are expendable, there is 7 billion on this planet a few 100 million, well the US government knows the answer to that.
It's as plane as day just look around you if you can't see then you better get with the program and get ready to do as you are told.
I hope it does not come to this but the possibility it there.
SAN DIEGO -- San Diego Fire-Rescue Department Chief Tracy Jarman has joined the rank of dozens of other veteran firefighters who are retiring to lock in better pension benefits, it was reported Thursday.
"During these tough economic times, it is difficult to make up for the poor administrative decisions that were made during more prosperous periods," Hopkins wrote in a Sept. 10 e-mail to the entire city fire department.
"Therefore this city finds itself in financial difficulties," the chief continued. "In order to salvage the budget problems, the decision makers are planning to ask our members to sacrifice so that this city can attempt to recover economic stability going forward. In leaving, I pray that your safety and the safety of this beautiful city isn't part of the casualties of your sacrifice."
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SARATOGA SPRINGS — Chiefs of the city’s police and fire departments announced they would retire before the end of the year, in hopes of saving the jobs of lower-level police officers who will otherwise be laid off under the 2010 comprehensive budget.
The 2010 budget has slated seven positions to be eliminated from both departments. By promoting officers within both the police and fire departments to fill the chiefs’ positions, at least one position at the lower levels will likely be saved, Commissioner of Public Safety Ron Kim said.
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With police and firefighters facing significant salary and benefit cuts, some say their major concern is the long-term impact to the pensions that will support them through retirement.
Because they pay into a pension plan, neither police nor firefighters receive Social Security benefits for their city careers.
"It is not like you are taking something that is just a one-time deal from these people. It is forever," said Police Capt. Ryan Perkins, a Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 93 trustee. "They will forever have less money, and that is a very serious concern to these guys."
Big pensioners: should they be named?
By Ed Mendel
A lawsuit would limit the information on the website of a pension reform group, preventing the listing of names such as Bruce Malkenhorst, a city of Vernon retiree with a $499,675 annual pension.
The suit filed by a retired Contra Costa Deputy Sheriff, Donna Irwin, would allow the disclosure of the amounts of individual public employee pensions. But the recipient could not be named.
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The San Ramon Valley Fire Protection District chief, Craig Bowen, retired last December at age 51 with an annual salary of about $221,000 a year. His annual pension is $284,000.
The Moraga Orinda Fire District chief, Peter Nowicki, turned a $185,000 annual salary into a $241,000 yearly pension at age 50. Then Nowicki went back to work for the district on a five-month contract at $176,000 a year, collected on top of his pension.
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Case Study: The Sacramento Bee Tracks a Tip
By Rick Rodriguez (and colleagues)
RELATED RESOURCES
This package contains a series of articles that resulted from a recent Poynter seminar called "Creating A Watchdog Culture: Claiming An Essential Newspaper Role." All are linked up at the bottom of this article.
It was the kind of tip many reporters would find overwhelming: sources within the California Highway Patrol alleging that high-ranking officers were making end-of-career injury claims to maximize their post-retirement income. They called it "Chief's Disease."
For Sacramento Bee reporters John Hill and Dorothy Korber, however, it was a reward for months of meticulous work covering the state's broken pension system.
Confirming the tip proved difficult. First, the state's retirement system refused to disclose any information about retirees except the amount of their pension.
Undeterred, John and Dorothy came at it from another angle. Such medical pensions tend to be preceded by workers' compensation claims, which the reporters learned were indeed considered public records. The Bee paid for an index of workers' compensation cases involving CHP workers and began to build a database.
Still, many of the chiefs and captains mentioned by the original tipsters were missing. After weeks of queries by the reporters, the workers' comp board acknowledged an error and released a second CD, containing more than 7,000 pages of additional case names.
Originally posted by smyleegrl
When I'm on ATS I see all sorts of posts about upcoming martial law.
When I'm out in "the real world," I don't see any evidence of it at all. I'm starting to wonder if perhaps it really is denying ignorance, or just simple paranoia.
Can you please help me understand why they think martial law might soon be in the US? I mean, what situations are they addressing? Because in my "real world" its just the same old, same old....
Thanks for clarifying.