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When Kyle's own life hangs on the line - again! Jury too scared to rule. An UPDATE on Deliberations

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posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: RMFX1
a reply to: Soloprotocol

That's not a good description of what happened at all. What have you been watching? Kyle didn't verbally abuse or insult anyone. Completely the opposite infact.

He pointed a gun at said arsehole.


Not according to the evidence unless you take for granted the video that has been compressed and is currently in dispute.
edit on 17-11-2021 by RMFX1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: MDDoxs

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: RMFX1
a reply to: Soloprotocol

That's not a good description of what happened at all. What have you been watching? Kyle didn't verbally abuse or insult anyone. Completely the opposite infact.

He pointed a gun at said arsehole.


With just cause in my humble opinion. I started off as Anti- Rittenhouse, but after watching the trial, I have revised my opinion.

I also started off Anti-Rittenhouse. After watching the video's it's clear as day he was defending himself because he wasn't experienced enough to handle the situation he helped create.
What he's guilty of I don't know.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

You really need a legal precedent to protect your own life?

Maybe you should consider why that is.

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: MDDoxs
a reply to: Soloprotocol

It takes a big man to admit when one is wrong.

Respect for that.

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:06 PM
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Thanks to failed police reform, a decimated middle class, depletion of any ability to make things yourself rather than through slave labor abroad, those times are already back in cities around the world. The leftists just haven't noticed it yet. My city of Seattle now gives armed escorts of county employees to the bus stop. Murder rates are through the roof. But by all means please do explain our modern socialist utopia to me where we have evolved beyond a need for self defense, I'm all ears. I'm a rabbit after all.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: RMFX1

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: RMFX1
a reply to: Soloprotocol

That's not a good description of what happened at all. What have you been watching? Kyle didn't verbally abuse or insult anyone. Completely the opposite infact.

He pointed a gun at said arsehole.


Not according to the evidence unless you take for granted the video that has been compressed and is currently in dispute.

Rosenbaum was a coward who singled out Kyle, A kid, for special treatment earlier that night.

If you watch all the videos you can clearly see the confrontation that was 100% one-sided with Rosenbaum the aggressor.

Just so happens both parties somehow ran into each other again when Kyle was on his own and Rosenbaum saw his opportunity to chase him down. The kid got scared and it snowballed from that point.

He wasn't mature enough to handle the situation like the cool calm and collected operator he thought he could be.
As I said previously. I don't know what the charge should be in this case...If any.

American Law state on state varies massively, never mind anywhere else on this planet.

It is indeed a test case. The Police's failure to protect property also helped in fueling the fire..so to speak.
edit on 17-11-2021 by Soloprotocol because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: RMFX1

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: RMFX1
a reply to: Soloprotocol

That's not a good description of what happened at all. What have you been watching? Kyle didn't verbally abuse or insult anyone. Completely the opposite infact.

He pointed a gun at said arsehole.


Not according to the evidence unless you take for granted the video that has been compressed and is currently in dispute.

Rosenbaum was a coward who singled out Kyle for special treatment earlier that night.

If you watch all the videos you can clearly see the confrontations that was 100% one sided with Rosenbaum the agressor.

Just so happens both parties somehow ran into each other again when Kyle was somehow on his own and Rosenbaum saw his opportunity to chase him down. The kid got scared and it snowballed from that point.

He wasn't mature enough to handle the situation like the cool calm and collected operator he thought he could be.
As I said previously. I don't know what the charge should be in this case.


Sorry, we're talking about 2 different things. I thought you were referring to the alleged pointing of the gun at the other guy who fired the shot in the air which triggered Rosembaum and the chain reaction that follows. That's specifically what they are trying to prove right now with this drone video.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:14 PM
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People will never stop defending or protecting themselves because of some law or precedent.

What will happen is that there will be a lot of missing persons and my buddy with a backhoe will be busy.




posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: RMFX1

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: RMFX1

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: RMFX1
a reply to: Soloprotocol

That's not a good description of what happened at all. What have you been watching? Kyle didn't verbally abuse or insult anyone. Completely the opposite infact.

He pointed a gun at said arsehole.


Not according to the evidence unless you take for granted the video that has been compressed and is currently in dispute.

Rosenbaum was a coward who singled out Kyle for special treatment earlier that night.

If you watch all the videos you can clearly see the confrontations that was 100% one sided with Rosenbaum the agressor.

Just so happens both parties somehow ran into each other again when Kyle was somehow on his own and Rosenbaum saw his opportunity to chase him down. The kid got scared and it snowballed from that point.

He wasn't mature enough to handle the situation like the cool calm and collected operator he thought he could be.
As I said previously. I don't know what the charge should be in this case.


Sorry, we're talking about 2 different things. I thought you were referring to the alleged pointing of the gun at the other guy who fired the shot in the air which triggered Rosembaum and the chain reaction that follows. That's specifically what they are trying to prove right now with this drone video.

Rosenbaum was already triggered.

I was specifically talking about when Kyle turned just as he got to the two cars. He was clearly pointing his gun in Rosenbaum's direction.

At this point, the wheels were already in motion. Rosenbaum wasn't stopping and lunged at Kyle. Kyle pulled the trigger.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
People will never stop defending or protecting themselves because of some law or precedent.

What will happen is that there will be a lot of missing persons and my buddy with a backhoe will be busy.


A friend will help you move. A best friend will help you move a body!



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol



He wasn't mature enough to handle the situation like the cool calm and collected operator he thought he could be.


Actually he was. Two out of Three is not bad. He did not just random fire into a crowd he attacked his aggressors.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Soloprotocol



He wasn't mature enough to handle the situation like the cool calm and collected operator he thought he could be.


Actually he was. Two out of Three is not bad. He did not just random fire into a crowd he attacked his aggressors.

Definitely. He showed more restraint and better judgement than most police officers who are involved in a shooting.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:38 PM
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333,664,823 as of Tuesday, November 16, 2021


a reply to: shaemac


Because this is really not about Kyle, it is about creating chaos and division in our country and the world to force all to submit to the agendas of the New World Order. Former JGB Yuri Besmenov explained the process.

" CREATING CHAOS AND DIVISION " ... ( THAT ) ... is the part most Democrats ... the ( it )'s ... the BLM crowd ... some that just crossed our BORDERS illegally ... * a country without borders ( THAT'S ) chaos * ... the WOKE ... Cancel culture ... and any OTHER ( identity group ) that has a few hundred ( its ) ... to a COUPLE of million of semi goofy folks that they can try ... muster ... or band together to create ...* SH*T *

.... let's SEE now ... tomorrow one of them ... GOOFY as *sh*t GROOPS ... that has about 350 thousand not even a MILLION ...has decided ole ... USA NEEDS TO START diving on the opposite side of our streets and Highways LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD ...no matter what the rest of deceit population that has to change to replace all the signage and Everything else THAT would take so we can get to work or go play or ... taking our kids to SCHOOL ... SAFELY ... I'M NOT TO SURE how many DEMOCRATS think about keeping us Safe ... cause they don't seem to care to much about border safety ... how many undocumented has came across sick or packing who know what across, I could make a list but it's ... etc ... etc ... it goes on and on cause if your still a Democrat now a days SEEMS TO ME YOU ALL must love it cause I see chaos ...l







333,664,823 as of Tuesday, November 16, 2021 in the United States of America ...let's let's say ... its 20 of those ( it ) weird son of a BITCHES ... the day after ( THAT ) want to put the streets back like they was it's Cazy all Right

I would like to put more into to this and clean it up, but I think you can SEE where I'm at ....


edit on 17-11-2021 by Jarboe because: had to fix A ( THAT ) ...



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:50 PM
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SOME UPDATES...still no verdict.


Apparently, the software "Handbrake" was used to compress the drone video in dispute and then rename it when it was first sent via text, then email, then put on a jump drive.



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BREAKING: Judge allowing jury to review drone footage in courtroom now



If you are to watch some live talk:
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Right now
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explaining the holdouts and what is going on in Kenosha


Steven Crowder has been covering this live and IMO does it amazingly so.
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posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
From what i've seen and heard of this case.

The kid was defending himself, No doubt he feared for his life, but from a situation, he kinda helped create.

Like, when you walk into a party already pished and proceed to tell the party host 'his birds a slut and the hosts an arsehole'

Then you kill said arsehole after he chases you out into the lawn.

At least the drunk has an excuse. He Was Pished!. The defense rests, Your Honor.


You have clearly not watched the entire trial nor any of the full videos of him.
Kyle created nothing. Absolutely nothing. He did not provoke anyone.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: RMFX1
a reply to: Soloprotocol

That's not a good description of what happened at all. What have you been watching? Kyle didn't verbally abuse or insult anyone. Completely the opposite infact.

He pointed a gun at said arsehole.


I probably should just block/ignore you because you OBVIOUSLY did not watch this trial. Every comment you have made is 100% evidence of this. Your talking points are from CNN, not the evidence presented in the trial. In fact, even the prosecutors would disagree with you.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: shaemac

Been thinking about the video being texted to them and the comment the prosecution made about their smart phones.

I don't use a smart phone, don't want one don't need one. I still use a flip phone just for calls that i have to make or emergencies.

I haven't seen one in a long time on a laptop or desktop and don't know if they still do it or not, but don't video players display a pop up that a video has been compressed and is a lower quality do you want to view the original file.

If that is still so wouldn't that suggest that if they do, the video was manipulated before being sent, and not due to text compression?



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
The amount of gross misconduct on the part of the prosecution is nothing short of breathtaking. Especially today. Any other case this would have already been dismissed with prejudice, but it isn't being because of the lying press and their terror mobs. Disgraceful.

Claire Binger and Fatty Arbuckle over here should be sent to prison, let alone disbarred. Christ.

Is this normal behaviour on the part of a prosecution? Because of it is then it's impossible to get a fair trial in America.


It is worse than a bad TV script. If this were not so serious, it would be laugable.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:56 PM
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Maybe the jury needs to be assured that if there are riots when Kyle is set free that Kyle will be free to protect the jury? But if they convict and people riot, Kyle can’t help them. I mean, the kid single-handedly ended the rioting in Kenosha the last time after all.



posted on Nov, 17 2021 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: shaemac

It was just reported that the file received by the defense was created 21 minutes later than the file held by the prosecution. So far the prosecution hasn't even been able to BS that one away.

It appears rather than a mistrial, the prosecution is going to make everything requested available to the defense.

TheRedneck


I am responding to posts all wrong lol
I should go back to where I last posted and start there, but am working my way backwards. lol

I saw they also used Handbreak software. I posted that above.




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