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Actual Evidence for Claims of Election Issues (fraud, vote switching, etc.)

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posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 04:05 AM
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This was a wonderful idea for a thread. To me, it illustrated perfectly that those who claim "massive evidence of election fraud" have actually no specific examples of this evidence in mind. I'm on the second page, and no evidence has been presented yet, at least.

Trump supporters often say that there was fraud, they have overwhelming evidence of said fraud, and that they are deeply invested in protecting our democracy. I truly can't understand why not even one person like this would present evidence here. Don't you want to disillusion those who have been "duped" by this "stolen election"?

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posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 06:37 AM
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a reply to: thesearchfortruth

What? You're not convinced by shady YouTube videos and Twitter links from random people?

What kind of pinko Communist liberal are you?


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posted on Dec, 31 2020 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: thesearchfortruth

ROFLMAO...

This video shows Jovan Pulitzer showing and pointing out in the Senate hearing in Georgia how he and his team were able to hack into a Georgia voting machine.



Jovan Pulitzer exposes election fraud

In case you didn't know, witnesses are used in criminal cases and are even believed, as long as what they say can be corroborated. There have been hundreds, if not thousands of witnesses, not just right-wing witnesses but including independent and democrat, witnesses whom have under oath testified they saw voter fraud...

What happened to the "we have to believe whistleblowers" crowd?... Or does it only matter when whistleblowers make up lies which can be corroborated were lies, but when whistleblowers tell the truth it doesn't count?...

But hey, I know your type... You are one of those whom has been claiming "Trump colluded with Russia and is a traitor" meanwhile not presenting any evidence whatsoever. But when evidence that shows how your side is corrupt is presented to you, you deny it just like the never-Trumpers/progressives" become blind and can't see what is shown right in their faces...



BTW, the above 17 representatives that did the analysis are all representatives of Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania Certified Results for President Are Found in Error

There are literally dozens of threads with actual proof of election fraud.

Patrick Byrne shows binder stuffed full of voter machine fraud

There are videos showing the election fraud. BTW, not allowing republican observers to watch the ballot counting at a fair distance, is evidence that the election wasn't corroborated as it should be, with all observers including republicans and their lawyers, being present and certifying each ballot signature, postal stamps, etc... As it used to be...









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posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: MiddleInsite
Keep telling yourself that.



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 06:29 AM
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IF anyone is interested at this point.

Jovan Pulitzer is not the inventor of the QR code. That is Masahiro Hara in 1994. Source

Mr. Pulitzer is best known for the Cue Cat one of the 50 worst inventions:



We’ll definitely grant that Pulitzer does have some credentials in the world of technology. He’s responsible for the CueCat: a cat-shaped barcode scanner that is widely regarded as one of the worst gadgets ever made. In a 2000 Wall Street Journal review, renowned technology journalist Walt Mossberg wrote that the CueCat was “unnatural and ridiculous.” Rob Beschizza of BoingBoing calls it “one of the classic crap gadgets.” And TIME named it one of “the 50 worst inventions.”


Here is his self-manufactured "Wikipedia Page" because they won't let him lie about himself on Wikipedia: "Wikipedia Page of Jovan Hutton Pulitzer"

He's not on Wikipedia, take a look.

Before his recent gig with Rudy G, he was decribing himself as a professional treasure hunter, looking for among other things, the Ark of the Covenant on the History Channel.

.....

If the addition of this clownish grifter to the cracker-jack Trump legal team doesn't convince you that they're not trying to win ... I'm not sure what would.



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 06:38 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Pulitzer didn't expose anything. He claims to have connected to the internet from a voting pad in a polling center. No proof.

He has provided no proof of his "method" to verify ballots.

The Georgia Legislature is not in session, and the "hearing" of a Senate Subcommittee and the motions made have zero legal weight.

I'm sure you know all that though. I would expect that the wild claims will only amplify from Rudy G and Pulitzer from this point.

As far as the "Pennsylvania Representatives" and their counting, the PA legislature is also not in session. Pennsylvania General Assembly

These guys are like 15% of the Republican caucus. Their counting has been shown by PA State officials a to be in error.



The Pennsylvania Department of State dismissed election return discrepancies as partisan conjecture after Republican lawmakers insisted officials counted an additional 170,000 ballots in error.

A group of conservative lawmakers, led by Lebanon County Rep. Frank Ryan, said an analysis of data pulled from DoS/SURE system records indicate that although only 6.7 million residents voted on Nov. 3, more than 6.9 million ballots were cast and included in the state’s certified results.

Wanda Murren, a department spokesperson, said Tuesday the “analysis” amounts to nothing more than “obvious misinformation” on the same level as the president’s failed legal challenges to overturn the election results. President-elect Joe Biden won Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes with a narrow 81,000 ballot victory – an outcome that President Donald Trump says came via widespread fraud.


State Department dismisses discrepancies in Pennsylvania election returns



So, in light of the facts, both the claims in this post are fairly meaningless.

Pullizer is a fraud. The Georgia legislature is not in session.

The "investigation" in PA is not an official investigation, hearing, analysis, etc. The PA legislature is not in session.
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posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: thesearchfortruth

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.

I do hope we can get back on track with serious posts.

I want us to be able to see the actual evidence in detail and analyze it.

I hope that our members will start to see what the facts are.



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: EpsteinBarrVirus
The guy that cast a vote for Trump under his dead mother's name. That one is verified and he has plead guilty.


Delaware County Man Accused Of Casting Vote In Name Of Dead Mother For President Donald Trump - 3 CBS Philly



Stollsteimer says Bartman, a registered Republican, illegally registered his dead mother, Elizabeth Bartman, and deceased mother-in-law, Elizabeth Weihman, to vote.

The deceased mother’s vote counted in the presidential election.

“We are charging him today with two counts of perjury for making false statements to register two deceased individuals who are his relatives — both his mother and his mother-in-law. He made false statements through the state’s assure system to register them as voters and he’s also charged with making an unlawful vote because he actually submitted an absentee ballot for his deceased mother, a ballot that was counted,” said Stollsteimer.


This is very unfortunate, but really points at why "voter fraud" is not very successful or wide spread.

Great example.



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Update (Arizona)

The small-scale Dominion voting system forensic audits have turned up so much vote-switching in Michigan and Georgia, the Arizona Attorney General has determined that Maricopa (Phoenix) county Dominion machines need an immediate forensic examination too.

Source: twitter.com...


The tweet you linked to does not either claim what you say it does or prove your claim.

The link from the tweet is to an apparent filing of an amicus brief in court from the Arizona Attorney General. Source

Again, no audits, no vote-switching, has been proven in court.



posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

What a bunch of bs. This is the same type of claim from rino/never-Trumpers that the information that shows Joe Biden has been involved in the business with his son, and brother with China, your globalist partisan socialist leaders are claiming "is Russian misinformation."

You claim that this is partisan made up story, the same can be said about your report.

Kathy Boockvar is the leader of the PA State Department. She is a political hack, and a known liar.


Kathy Boockvar has served as Secretary of the Commonwealth since January 5, 2019. In this role, Boockvar leads the Pennsylvania Department of State.
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SECRETARY OF THE COMMONWEALTH


This is the same Boockyar that ignored the rule/laws that only the legislature of PA, or Congress, can make changes to election rules/laws.


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A Pennsylvania judge has ruled in favor of the Trump campaign by concluding segregated ballots should not be counted. Further, the judge found that Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar lacked the "statutory authority" to change election law just days before Election Day.

"[The] Court concludes that Repsondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance to Respondents County Board of Elections insofar as that guidance purported to change the deadline in Section 1308(h) of the Pennsylvania Election Code...for certain electors to verify proof of identification, based on Secretary Boockvar's interpretation and application oof the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's decision in Pennsylvania Democratic Party v. Boockvar," the ruling states. "Accordingly, the Court hereby ORDERS that Respondents County Boards of Elections are enjoined from counting any ballots that have been segregated."
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PA Judge Rules Secretary of State Can't Unilaterally Invent Election Law

Despite this Boockvar continued to ignore the decision of the court and continued to make up LIES. Lies which you are pushing in this thread.

BTW, and again, the claim being made by Boockvar is that the PA system hasn't been able to add the new voters that added themselves on November 3rd, yet the system can't add them almost 2 months later?...

Boockvar is a liar.






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posted on Jan, 1 2021 @ 08:34 PM
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People who ignore or say there is no election fraud have their brains turned off. I see this at work every day. Disassociated mental trauma to admit it happened is just to painful for those who support pedophiles like Joe.



posted on Jan, 2 2021 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Ok, then bring some evidence to the thread to support your claims!



posted on Jan, 2 2021 @ 12:55 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yet you ignore Trump being bailed out by Russian interests to who he is still indebted to.

Pulitzer is a charlatan who has been caught in a web of lies numerous times. His claims are not credible and void of actual evidence.

Please try again.



posted on Jan, 2 2021 @ 06:14 AM
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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yet you ignore Trump being bailed out by Russian interests to who he is still indebted to.

Pulitzer is a charlatan who has been caught in a web of lies numerous times. His claims are not credible and void of actual evidence.

Please try again.


More Russia nonsense? That story is so last year.

And thanks for proving my earlier point.



posted on Jan, 2 2021 @ 06:34 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: MiddleInsite


Massive voter fraud would leave MASSIVE evidence of voter fraud.

It would, and it has, and anyone not blinded by their hatred for Trump and willful ignorance can find and see the evidence for themselves. We're not going to do it for you or the OP. Plenty has been posted right here on ATS.



And yet none of them have been accepted in a court of law...again this is not the impeachment trial it is not a court of opinion its a court of law and the law doesn't give a dam about people opinions

for myself i will consider evidence when the court decide to accept the evidences i know the majority of Trumpers believe a twit about an opinion is hard evidence...



posted on Jan, 2 2021 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

It has been proven that Trump was bailed out by Russian interests before becoming President. He is still in debt to those interest. This is not up for debate, it is reality.

The deflection comes from those who make the claim Biden is getting paid by China (1.) Without offering any evidence to back up their claim and (2.) To ignore the fact Trump is in debt to Russian interests.

Again do you have evidence to back up your claims?

Making the general statement that people's brains are off if they do not see election fraud is NOT evidence of any short.



posted on Jan, 2 2021 @ 07:13 AM
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a reply to: jrod

Of course they don't.

There's a difference though. There is ample evidence on the record that Trump has been bought by both Russia and China ... and yet, there's none for Biden. Zero, zippo, nada.



posted on Jan, 2 2021 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: THeGreaTZoiD

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: MiddleInsite


Massive voter fraud would leave MASSIVE evidence of voter fraud.

It would, and it has, and anyone not blinded by their hatred for Trump and willful ignorance can find and see the evidence for themselves. We're not going to do it for you or the OP. Plenty has been posted right here on ATS.



And yet none of them have been accepted in a court of law...again this is not the impeachment trial it is not a court of opinion its a court of law and the law doesn't give a dam about people opinions

for myself i will consider evidence when the court decide to accept the evidences i know the majority of Trumpers believe a twit about an opinion is hard evidence...


I think a lot of people feel as you do, as long as they feel the courts favor them.



posted on Jan, 2 2021 @ 07:24 AM
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Trump -appointed judges heard the cases.

A conservative Supreme Court of the US with three spanking new Trump appointees heard the cases.

All cases were dismissed or denied.

When do we have to say, logically, that the problem is not in the court system, but in the cases being submitted?




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