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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: UKTruth
As for the majority, he was spot on. The majority of the country voted Trump. The vast majority. Something like 3 counties to 1. I guess you are still upset that no one with a brain is buying the countrywide popular vote argument, which is not part of the US electoral process, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Wtf cares if it was 3 counties to 1? What an arbitrary measure. How many of those counties were won by less than 1%? 5%? 10%? How many of those counties have populations under 50k? 20k? 10k? 5k? Are you arguing that a county with 10k people, 51% of whom voted for Trump is any way comparable to a county of 1 million in which 70% of the people voted for Clinton?
Here's where people actually live in the United States:
Here's how people voted:
I find your race baiting to be rather nasty. You seem to continually fall back on crying racist on the basis that Republicans treat black people they see talking sense as 'the black friend'. What a cop out argument.
It's not a cop out argument. It wasn't even an argument. Lmao. It was an observation and one that you can make yourself. Go to YouTube. Type the words "black Trump supporter" into the search box.
16-Year-Old Black Trump Supporter Schools Black Lives Matter Moron in Epic Debate
Black Trump Supporter Smacks Down CNN Reporter for Race Baiting
Black Trump supporter DESTROYS CNN's narrative "Voted Democrat 20+ yrs & saw no change #Blacks4Trump
Black Trump Supporters debate White Liberal RNC Cleveland, OH
Black Trump Supporter VS Black Lives Matter RNC 2016
Black Trump Supporter Destroys MSNBC Host
BLACK TRUMP SUPPORTER SCHOOLS LIBTARDS
“Democrats Is The Party Of KKK, Plantation Politics!”-Black Trump Supporter To Former Soviet
2016 Republican National Convention - Hip Hop Trump Voter Destroys Black Lives Matter
Black Trump Supporter Destroys Clinton Supporter and Mentions Satanic Ritual Spirit Cooking
Black Trump Patriot Destroys Violent Communists
That's just a few from the first two pages. Perhaps most interesting about it is how many of the videos come from Alex Jones/Infowars are associated channels (SHUTTERSHOT45 who attended seveal protests w/Infowars crew). Then you've got Mark F, the videographer for LatinosWithTrump. A lot of this is astroturfed propaganda garbage.
You can act all butthurt if you want but it's acting.
Anyone running into you on the street would know almost the moment you started talking that you do not have an objective bone in your body.
Blah blah blah. What is it about this that you think makes a good argument? Do you imagine that you're a luminary of objective thought? Lmao. Try holding yourself to your own made up standards.
As for your Margaret Sanger argument, that is just special. Other people were eugenicists, so the history doesn't mater. Kind of like a white nationalist saying that they've softened on some of Hitler's policies and they are OK now.
The obvious point was that a lot of people were supporters of eugenics. Funny, I don't hear any of you "woke" types crying about the bust of Winston Churchill being moved back into the Oval Office — or comparing Churchill to Hitler — but because Sanger founded PP, somehow that's supposed to make contraception and abortion Nazi-like.
Get a f'ing grip. Contraception and abortion aren't something that only exists in America and if wasn't PP, it would be something else. Sanger has been dead for 50+ years. PP has nothing to do with eugenics, let alone Nazis, except for desperate, spurious smears involving Sanger and her early views which were unfortunately widely held prior to WWII.
Oh and here is one back at you - liberals absolutely HATE when a minority person escapes their ideology. Makes it so much harder to divide.
"I find your race baiting to be rather nasty."
originally posted by: theantediluvian
Here's how people voted:
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Navieko
If he were here, I would have to say to him:
Well Joe, MORE than half of your nations voting public are aware that Trump is about to destroy everything that the human and civil rights movement has been about creating for the last few decades at a stretch,...
... the women in that crowd have just had a room full of men make some very far reaching choices about how they may and may not use their body parts, and that is just in the first few days.
Joe, ... I should not need to tell you, that the only reason you are free to ride your bicycle down the street without getting spat on, shouted at or abused LEGALLY, is that at some point people were prepared to stand up for what they believed in, that being the freedom of persons of colour, their right to vote, their right to equality and a fair shake, just the same as everyone else was allegedly allowed at the time.
The only reason there is any kind of a civil rights ethic in your country today, is because despite the ignorance of some fat guy on the corner, who clearly is not smart enough to look after himself worth a God damn, people went out of their homes, went out of their way, put themselves in danger from batons, bullets and tear gas, to make a point.
If you love your country, its right to freedom of speech, if you love your country and its history so much, you should see any but a Nazi march as a beautiful manifestation of the constitution, a walking monument to its timeless wisdom.
But for some reason, likely because you have a small mind Joe, likely because you view everything through your partisan attitudes, as opposed to an even handedness which corrects the balance in your world view, you see these marches as some how Anti American.
originally posted by: Jiggly
if women want to get a abortion, that is their right.... but the government shouldnt be the ones paying for it
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Cancerwarrior
He has not made a very good start.
Already taking rights away from women, first thing off the bat, first piece of paper he signed. Does not bode well in the least.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Navieko
The man failed to shut them up. He also made some false statements. He spoke of a majority, but Mr Trump does not have a majority. He won states, not people.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Navieko
There's nothing about this video that screams "needs to be watched!" to me? YouTube is lousy with this sort of thing isn't it?
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First, he stopped the gravy train of US funding of abortions abroad. Those women do NOT have a fundamental and inalienable right to have me pay for their abortions. So what he did was the right thing. What else has he done to take away women's right?
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Cancerwarrior
He has not made a very good start.
Already taking rights away from women, first thing off the bat, first piece of paper he signed. Does not bode well in the least.
Again he pulled the plug in funding abortions in foreign countries. No woman in a foreign country deserves to have it on our dime. That is just sheer entitlement.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Jiggly
if women want to get a abortion, that is their right.... but the government shouldnt be the ones paying for it
I disagree in this is still a medical event that we have deemed as a woman health issue, so it is what it is and should be covered as any other health related issue.
I'm not for abortions and I would love for people to be responsible in either not needing tax funds to pay for it, or actually put more effort in preventing the pregnancy in the first place., but that is not the way with a good percentage of our population.