Ukraine revolution: 150,000 Russian troops on alert as US warns Putin

Its just a matter of calming the waters and ride out these old players still stuck in a cold war mentality. A couple of years down the road they all bite the dust. Unfortunately Putin is a very young one in that crowed and with absolute influence in Russia, but once he is gone the new cold war will be gone.

tinyDAWK
reply to post by JohnPhoenix

 

No your wrong. It's like if Mexico had a civil war and usa wanted to go in and break it up.

No, it's not like that either. It's as if Mexico had a civil war and the USA wanted to promote it, so it could annex some pro-gringo Mexican States near the border.

InterpreterMag.com is publishing live updates translated from Russian to English that seem pretty interesting and pretty up to date. Here are a few excerpts:

Ukraine Liveblog Day 11: Airports Seized
February 28, 2014

2327 GMT: The airport in Simferopol has stopped taking flights, Lenta.ru reported at 22:56 Moscow time tonight.

The air space over Simferopol is closed, says ITAR-TASS. RIA Novosti reported that it is closed at least until 18:30 on 1 March. A dispatcher told the news agency that the ban on flights may be extended.

Meanwhile, Reuters is reporting that air space is closed over all of Crimea.

2134 GMT: Independent media going off the air?

Ayder Muzhdabayev, deputy editor of Moskovsky Komsomolets, reported on Facebook 2 hours ago:

Urgent from Crimea

Armed divisions have seized the state television station (GTRK) of Crimea. All the staff have gathered together at the Crimean Tatar TV channel ATR, hundreds of others have come. They are waiting for the seizure. Several APCs have arrived. For now, they’ve passed by. They are also expected seizure of the building of the Crimean Tatar’s Medjlis [Assembly]. People are already going there. Everyone is afraid of what will happen tonight. There it is.

Friends, colleagues, take care of yourself! Don’t resist the military. God save Crimea!

2134 GMT: Russian blogger Lev Shlosberg who writes for the newspaper Pskovskaya Guberniya has written this report today at 4:42 pm (translated by The Interpreter) that says that Russian “Officers and Contractors of the 76th Chernihov (Pskov) Storm Troops Division” are now in Ukraine:

According to one of the participants in the operation, officers and contractors of the 76th Shock Troops Division have been re-locating to Ukrainian territory since last week. By early this week, there were already more than 100 soldiers. The last of the famous detachments was sent on Thursday, 27 February. They are fully armed, with 5,000 rounds of ammunition per person. There is one truck per 10 soldiers, and they are completely loaded with weapons including flame-throwers. Upon arrival on the territory of Ukraine, they did not report their geographical locations to people, and they were assigned local tasks. Most likely, this was Sevastopol and Simferopol. Emergency troops remain in Yysk, and did not take part in the operation. The barracks of the 76th Storm Troops Division on Margelova Street in Pskov is practically empty.

2113 GMT: UNN reports that the entire command of the Ukrainian navy has resigned. This may be a rumor, however, since the UNN report also notes that the Ministry of Defense has no mention of this on their website, and their press service has not reported it.

SOURCE: InterpreterMag.com

I don't know whether these news blurbs are accurate or not, but at the very least it sounds like the situation is accelerating rapidly.

reply to post by crazyewok


Other than ourselves, no one has ever invaded the U.S. We have thousands of nukes.... Just saying... The whole point is that we still, as a government, deem it necessary to intervene in every friggin' conflict on planet earth, yet most of it has none to do with our right exist in this world. holding countries at bay by forcing our military might on other countries, is a sure way to alienate us from the rest of the world. The Gumbertment needs to stay in their own neighborhood for awhile and let the rest of the world sort out their own problems. Isolationism?!?!? Maybe.... But our nose needs to be clean before we tell other countries what they should do....

Oh oh, This may complicate things. Apparently the Ukrainian parliament is calling on the US and the UK to fulfill a 1994 treaty to help protect Ukraine's borders...

A treaty signed in 1994 by the US and Britain could pull both countries into a war to protect Ukraine if President Putin's troops cross into the country.

Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine - agreed to the The Budapest Memorandum as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

Technically it means that if Russia has invaded Ukraine then it would be difficult for the US and Britain to avoid going to war.

Sir Tony Brenton, who served as British Ambassador from 2004 to 2008, said that war could be an option 'if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding.'

It promises to protect Ukraine's borders, in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.

Kiev has demanded the agreement is activated after insisting their borders had been violated.

In response Mr Brenton said in a BBC radio interview: 'If indeed this is a Russian invasion of Crimea and if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding then it's very difficult to avoid the conclusion that we're going to go to war with Russia'.

SOUR CE: Daily Mail Online - Revealed: The forgotten treaty which could drag the US and UK into WAR with Russia if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine

reply to post by ikonoklast


If the Ukrainian's are waiting on the US leadership to get involved. All they will get is harsh words and line drawings.

Ohio_Ron
reply to post by crazyewok

 

Other than ourselves, no one has ever invaded the U.S. We have thousands of nukes.... Just saying... The whole point is that we still, as a government, deem it necessary to intervene in every friggin' conflict on planet earth, yet most of it has none to do with our right exist in this world. holding countries at bay by forcing our military might on other countries, is a sure way to alienate us from the rest of the world. The Gumbertment needs to stay in their own neighborhood for awhile and let the rest of the world sort out their own problems. Isolationism?!?!? Maybe.... But our nose needs to be clean before we tell other countries what they should do....

There seems to be some misplaced requirement of a Super Power to intervene, I cannot find the Charter, Law or Directive, but its there.

To be honest, I actually do feel sorry for America (I dont mean this in a patronising way).

Take Somalia for a start, look I dont proffess to being an expert here so await incoming - Genoside - the world waits for America.

Take former Yugoslavia - the world waits for America

Take Libya - waited fro the Americans

Take Syria - the world is waiting for America.

I am british - where do we say feck this, its wrong, and we are going in.......apart from Falklands which was self defence, never.

We helped France in Mali.

We have the EU and yet we cant make fk all of a decision.

America cant win, either the world stands by and watches or America has to lead...

(Iraq was a fk up as was Afg - but its 2 from many).

Why do I respect America in the main - at least they do something, we Europeans are politically correct wankers. Even in the UK we have just let off a load of IRA terrorists and yet we are still allowing our armed forces to be prosecuted....

I dislike too many things.

reply to post by CosmicDude


Russia is Invading Ukraine. Yes?

reply to post by SirDrinksalot


Simply put...our armed forces are just about non existent these days.
I doubt we could mobilize to Ukraine in any significant numbers.

Our Government prefer to axe all the conventional stuff so they can keep the trident
nuclear program.

We also have no money!

Brainiac
reply to post by CosmicDude

 

Russia is Invading Ukraine. Yes?

No. It's protecting its military assets in the Crimea (naval port at Sevastobol) from being taken over by the neo-Nazist fascists, financed by George Soros and supported by rightwing American politicians like Senator John McCain, who have taken control of Kiev and western Ukraine. It's also protecting its oil pipe that supplies Europe.

Ohio_Ron
reply to post by crazyewok

 

Other than ourselves, no one has ever invaded the U.S.

Have you forgotten The British invasion of The U.S. in 1812?

Do you recall what happened to The White House?

Quick Update:

Ukraine has mobilized the military.

Source

RUSSIAN FORCES ARE TRYING TO SEIZE CONTROL OF AN ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSILE BASE IN UKRAINE'S CRIMEA - INTERFAX CITES UKRAINIAN MILITARY SOURCE

Source

rigel4
Quick Update:

Ukraine has mobilized the military.

Source

NO point...Ukrainian military in Crimea is being disbanded and surrendering to Russian forces , there are also reports that several Ukrainian military is unwilling to fight due to divided loyalties

reply to post by alldaylong


Do you recalled that we kicked the Brits out!?!?

micpsi

Brainiac
reply to post by CosmicDude

 

Russia is Invading Ukraine. Yes?

No. It's protecting its military assets in the Crimea (naval port at Sevastobol) from being taken over by the neo-Nazist fascists, financed by George Soros and supported by rightwing American politicians like Senator John McCain, who have taken control of Kiev and western Ukraine. It's also protecting its oil pipe that supplies Europe.

This kinda sounds like something Adolf Hitler would have said, had it all happened in modern times, when he re-occupied the Sudetenland. Except, he would have said communists, or Jews, instead of "neo-Nazist fascists".

I really don't think I can roll my eyes enough at your post, honestly.

Catacomb

micpsi

Brainiac
reply to post by CosmicDude

 

Russia is Invading Ukraine. Yes?

No. It's protecting its military assets in the Crimea (naval port at Sevastobol) from being taken over by the neo-Nazist fascists, financed by George Soros and supported by rightwing American politicians like Senator John McCain, who have taken control of Kiev and western Ukraine. It's also protecting its oil pipe that supplies Europe.

This kinda sounds like something Adolf Hitler would have said, had it all happened in modern times, when he re-occupied the Sudetenland. Except, he would have said communists, or Jews, instead of "neo-Nazist fascists".

I really don't think I can roll my eyes enough at your post, honestly.

edit on 1-3-2014 by Catacomb because: (no reason given)

Lol

Absolutely agree with you

It is exactly what hitler reborn would do

Can't respect the wishes of the people of Ukraine and throws its toys out for losing a key port on the Black Sea and soon the Mediterranean in Syria

Next put will be saying he wants to unite al Russian speaking countries just as hitler said about German speaking countries before moving into Austria and Czech

Wake up people Putin and his mafia are insane

maddy21

rigel4
Quick Update:

Ukraine has mobilized the military.

Source

NO point...Ukrainian military in Crimea is being disbanded and surrendering to Russian forces , there are also reports that several Ukrainian military is unwilling to fight due to divided loyalties

This must be why the Ukrainian government is reaching out to the UN and asking for support from the EU & US

Russia will be steamrolled by NATO in days if they don't kindly Pee off

TritonTaranis


Russia will be steamrolled by NATO in days if they don't kindly Pee off

This is true , but NATO main cities will be wasteland

We need to get people talking to each other, or else you could see a repeat of what happened in Georgia. Ukraine is just way to valuable for Russia to stop with just Crimea. The scale and stakes are higher.