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Let's take Christianity for a minute. In this story, Jesus Christ, co-equal with God Almighty the Father, comes to earth, suffers and dies, as expiation for the "sins" of humanity. However, problem is that those "sins" were set up and defined in fthe first place by the same God who then insisted that his Only Son be skewered on a Roman Cross. So, one would think that after the Crucifixion, all would be forgiven right?
reply to post by Gryphon66
I couldn't control myself.
I'm also surprised nobody has addressed the point about Joe Biden letting the cat out of the bag by admitting that the media played a big role in shaping perceptions on gay marraige... That absolutly supports the point I'm making in this thread. I'm on mobile right now and I can't copy paste links, but look it up. PS- ''letting the cat out of the bag'' is a figure of speech, like saying ''pepsi is a 100 times better than coca cola''. It does NOT mean Joe Biden was literally walking around with a cat in a bag. I thought I'd explain this, given certain responses I've been reading on here.
reply to post by Gryphon66
I couldn't control myself.
Fair enough. Just as a side note, do you really rely on the Examiner as a news source, Stormdancer?
Although I have to admit, I'm wondering if it's a group like "the Commies" that are the alleged purpetrators of this massive mind-control scheme to make Americans abandon Christianity (which they, er, haven't) and thereby open the pit to all kinds of degenerates ... or is the Illuminati? The Satanists? The Commie Satanist Illuminati?
See what I'm saying? The argument is that there HAS TO BE A GROUP (of course, assuming the propositions of the question which are far from obvious) doing all this control and manipulation, and yet, no one seems to know, least of all the OP, who or what that might be.
...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda
reply to post by ElohimJD
I think you're missing a point if you reduce it merely to "my personal reaction" to your explanation. I'm trying to reach my hand over the fence to let you know that it is quite often the allocation of humanity to some blighted, sinful, diseased, childish, belittled, wretched, maligned state by too many of the Religious that puts so many of those who think differently completely off to your message and closes our ears to even the productive parts of your beliefs.
Let's take Christianity for a minute. In this story, Jesus Christ, co-equal with God Almighty the Father, comes to earth, suffers and dies, as expiation for the "sins" of humanity. However, problem is that those "sins" were set up and defined in fthe first place by the same God who then insisted that his Only Son be skewered on a Roman Cross. So, one would think that after the Crucifixion, all would be forgiven right? WRONG, humanity remains the sinful scum of the earth until they have the right kind of water applied to their heads, hands or whole body, jump through that hoop or this one, and woe, woe, woe, we're still only garbage.edit on 14Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:22:25 -060014p022014266 by Gryphon66 because: OK
Joe Biden isn't a peon either. My point with Joe Biden is that he, gaffer or not, stated that the media shaped peoples perceptions of gay marraiges. So the proposal that societies values can be changed through the media is a valid argument backed with proof. I'd like to know why the media decided to shape peoples perceptions regarding gay marriage. Did people first ask for their societies perceptions to be changed? No. So unelected powers have succesfully altered Americans perceptions of certain issues.
Joe Biden is far from an authority on anything, in my book. So, The Gaffer is your keystone of evidence here?
“What does Christianity mean today? National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel.” ― Joseph Goebbels
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
The fact that media can change people’s minds is not news – any well presented argument can influence people
As to the gay thing, maybe gay people and people who support the idea that being gay is not a problem made the media you are worried about?
Oh and as for gay people upsetting you – if you stop making pictures in your head about what they get up to it will stop bothering you – its not like its any of your business after all
___________ My question is who or what transformed a once conservative culture into accepting ideas and values which were the exact opposite of what was upheld for so long?
Exactly who decided that the word ''progressiveness'' has to mean accepting ideas and practices that were once seen as abhorrent?
If the collapse of religion and age-old traditional values did not occur by accident, then it would have had to have been achieved by mysterious forces working behind the scenes to program the masses into accepting strange new ideas.
christian America had its traditional values rewritten by nameless faceless entities. I.e- means unknown, unelected powers destroyed the values that America once had
You use civil rights flavored language and appeal to emotion because thats exactly the way the mass media and celebrities word the argument.
I haven't got anything against the Lgbt communuty personally, but I am pointing out the unfair methods used by the media to shape and manipulate society.
Now, a reasonable person understands that where the issue of the law is concerned the best way to handle this without stepping on anyone's toes and jamming anyone's anything down anyone else's throat would be for the government to stop using marriage in their laws altogether. If two people really must have legal contractual obligations to one another through the law, then maybe the government should simply call it civil union no matter what the gender of the two involved are, and if they wish to pursue marriage, they can take that up with a religious group of their choice who will recognize their union.