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reply to post by FirePiston
The Bavarian one I believe is more talked about/nefarious one with Weishaupt. The version I prefer is the one that was formed after Copernicus dare proclaimed that the sun was the center of the universe. He was declared a heretic by the Catholic Church and burned at the stake. From there free thinkers went "underground". They wanted to enlighten folks on how stuff really worked , so to say.
Copernicus faced no persecution when he was alive because he died shortly after publishing his book
He even advanced beyond the sun-centered astronomy advocated by some of his contemporaries. His own model of the world is free from any fixed point of reference. In retrospect, it may be claimed that his pioneering thought actually fathered modern cosmology.
He overcame the myopic earth-centered framework of his time with a challenging but liberating sidereal view of things: in the cosmos, there are an infinite number of stars and planets (as well as comets and moons) more or less analogous to our sun and earth, respectively. He even envisioned an infinite number of solar systems, cosmic galaxies, and island universes strewn throughout this boundless reality.
[C16: from Latin, literally: the enlightened ones, from illūmināre to illuminate]
reply to post by BlastedCaddy
All of that Jay-z crap is to sell records. It's a propaganda stunt. The modern pop stars have no substance so they use Illumunati/occult stuff to make them seem interesting and to get people to talk. And it works!edit on 2/1/2014 by ItCameFromOuterSpace because: It works!
Interestingly enough, at some point after that George Washington separated himself from the Freemasons.
The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, OTO, and many groups within Freemasonry are heavily involved in the music industry (and have been throughout the industrial age).