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Living it up on the tax payers dime a weeks worth of food stamps

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posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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reply to post by jjkenobi
 


If you are actually paying taxes (not getting a refund) and you can't afford a steak, you are doing something wrong.




posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 03:50 PM
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reply to post by usernameconspiracy
 


Here's a pin -------------------------> for the bubble of illusion your living in.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 04:44 PM
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I don't whine about about what I'm receiving. I'm bitter that I can't work and forced into living a substandard life in the land of opportunity. I once worked for a fortune 500 company making more in a week then I now get in a month. I've watched my family and friends live the American dream while people like me get swept under the rug in society. If it weren't for my illness I'd be making $22 an hour right now. I had the opportunity in my hands until my illness destroyed any chance I had at a normal life.

My illness started when I was 17 it wasn't until I was 20 that doctors had figured it out. By then I was in full blown psychosis. The doctors told my mom that I would have to be put in a home because I had very little chance of recovering. They told my mom I'd never be the same again. My prognosis was very poor. I had 2 hospital stays at a month each time. When I got out of the hospital the second time I was working within 3 months. My grandmothers sister worked in the front office at a fortune 500 company. She got me a job doing custodial work. I started out at $10 an hour. For 2 years I cleaned toilets and swept the floors. I eventually was able to get into another department. I worked my way up until I was making $16 an hour.

One day I started having hallucinations and delusions. I think it was brought on by stress. I had a lot of pressure on me to perform my job duties. One day I cracked and my mind went into meltdown mode. I was hearing voices telling me to kill my co workers. I never had any problems with my co workers it was just delusional thinking and hallucinations. I kept it to myself and tried to work through it. But the hallucinations got worse and worse until I couldn't get out of bed in the mornings. I didn't want to face day because of this.

I told my doctor and he had to increase my meds. He suggested that I not go back to work. I walked away from everything I had strived and worked for. I didn't even want to apply for disability my family and my doctor were the ones that pushed the issue. I spent 10 years in the workforce battling with my illness. I didn't ask to be born with this and I never wanted to be on disability. When I worked I paid taxes just like everyone else and I never whined about it.

I just think that we as a nation could do a better job providing a better standard of living for those on disability.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 04:52 PM
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My groceries average between $100-$125 a week for a family of three. (Northern indiana).
And we eat out once a week mostly because I'm to lazy to cook sometimes. I don't buy a lot of boxed type meals or cookies and stick to the basics.
Can you try the local food pantries? They usually have good deals..



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 05:23 PM
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Thank you for your disclosure, this shouldn't be necessary. You should be able to express your opinions about why you feel the way you do , without having to justify yourself.

Unfortunately the world is filled with the self-righteous cowards, who take pleasure in elevating their ego's by putting others down.

I have no right to tell you what to eat, think or how to live, if your not hurting anyone in the process .

I should mind my own damn business and keep my " I'm more worthy or better than Thou " statements , to the mirror in the morning , when I get out of my comfortable bed and life , that is being sustained through the murder of millions world wide.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 05:31 PM
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Can I ask you if you ever have sat in a specialists office after major invasive surgery at the age of 32 and been told to get your affairs in order?

This is after just buying a home, getting married, and then gob smacked in the head that I need a will?

I became unemployable overnight and lost my very good paying job, the next trick was trying to afford the out of town doctor visits which were about one a week for over a year.

This involved my wife who had to take time off of work with no pay and drive me over 200 miles round trip and then pay the gas, and then do it again the next week.

Oh yeah I have a good time being disabled thank you very much, You have no idea how much fun it is and I don't need social media to play up my good fortune.

At one time I tossed kegs of beer around for pay and was in the utmost fit shape, now things are a bit different but hey what would I know?

Thanks to all the posters on this thread actually trying to be helpful to the OP with advice and recipes.

Regards, Iwinder


There is only one true disability, and that is of the mind. You can be a victim or a victor. You can let circumstance dictate the quality of your life or you can dictate the quality of your life. That was my point.

I have had plenty of setbacks in my own life (two open heart surgeries, a pacemaker, two eye lens removals, etc). I have had to live with restrictions and make hard choices too.

I am truly sorry that the OP is going through a difficult time. Still, I said what I said and I stand by it. If you've got two arms and two legs then you have more than Nick Vujicic. He lives a happy and successful life and so can you. So can everyone. It's all about your mindset!

Peace,
Cody



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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There is only one true disability, and that is of the mind. You can be a victim or a victor. You can let circumstance dictate the quality of your life or you can dictate the quality of your life. That was my point. I have had plenty of setbacks in my own life (two open heart surgeries, a pacemaker, two eye lens removals, etc). I have had to live with restrictions and make hard choices too. I am truly sorry that the OP is going through a difficult time. Still, I said what I said and I stand by it. If you've got two arms and two legs then you have more than Nick Vujicic. He lives a happy and successful life and so can you. So can everyone. It's all about your mindset!


Unfortunately in this day and age we need money to live anything that resembles a life nowadays.
Your example of Nick Vujicic is a bit extreme, but I do admire the guy for his get go.
I wonder where his money comes from because we sure can't seem to keep ahead, and what savings we have are going down at a steady pace.

My private insurance which saved us until now has just notified me of a reduction of about $31.00 per month, that is $360.00 bucks a year.

I have been on a fixed income for 20 years now and it has never ever gone up and now it is going down.
As others have said in this thread the cost of food is really going through the roof and then some.

This thread is not about mindset, it is about being tossed onto the garbage heap lost and forgotten by the talking heads on tv that only report wars and destruction.

On a side note I am glad to see you posting after two open heart operations:-)
There is always good news to be found here and I mean that no sarcasm intended.

Myself I am in need of a heart but have been told I will never get it......so my mind set is a bit different than yours.

Thanks for posting back and your being candid.
I don't see how this helps the OP at all though, bringing in a poster boy for disability won't work for most of us that are unable to work.

Regards, Iwinder



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 06:35 PM
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FlyersFan
HE came on here complaining about what his entitlement bought him. HE DID THAT. So HE invited comments. It was obvious from the picture that he wasn't shopping smart ... so people gave him advice on how to shop better and how to get more food for his money. (and more nutritious food). What he bought was crap ... not good for his $$$ and not healthy for his health situation. (sugar always makes things worse).


And people aren't entitled to complain about substandard living situations? I complain all the time about my apartment, it's smaller than a jail cell, the roof leak so much it might as well not even be there, there's no hot water, and there's black mold but it's what my disability allows me to afford. I don't even see what he bought as junk food, there's nothing wrong with the pasta sides. Pie and soda aren't my thing, but some people like them. The OP mentioned sugar cravings, that's what they're for. I've been in the mindset before of buying all junk food like tv dinners, often times you just want to get in and out of the store as fast as possible and interact with the fewest people. Other times it's just routine. I've always been one that sticks firmly in their comfort zone by nature so not breaking the routine is what happens.

Like I said different people have different capabilities. Holding everyone to the same standard doesn't work. That doesn't change the fact that the OP could shop different, I'm not denying that. For one reason or another though he doesn't. Maybe it's ignorance in which case this thread can combat that, maybe it's another reason in which case this thread can't do much.


As for different culinary skills - he needs to learn how to cook basic foods. If he can't, learn to boil water to make spaghetti noodles, then there are plenty of inexpensive things he could be eating that don't require cooking.


I'm a terrible cook, for some reason I'm a savant when it comes to baking though. People have different skillsets. It's not right for me to expect someone to know how to write a computer program, why should they expect someone to be a decent cook?


macman
No, charity is voluntary.


Here's the problem with charity: People give to others like them. When we rely on just charity groups that are poorly represented in an area go without simply for their beliefs. My town is very conservative, made up of "good and proper God fearing Christian folk". If left to charity the Muslim or the Atheist sees no help because they have the wrong belief system. The liberal also goes without because they believe in something else. The government serves a very important purpose here, they can give (and take) without being biased against minorities.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 07:02 PM
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1. I have almost 8 hours of overtime so far this week. I have worked about 38 hours of overtime in the last 3 weeks. And omg the government took taxes out, and the government is going to use some of that tax money to execute prisoners, they will use some of that tax money to send your kids to school, they will use the tax money for the bus, gas, and maintenance, the building, teacher salaries, and so on and so on.

Your right wing governments of the past has made it near impossible to do business or to even get a job. You wanna work then piss in this cup, pass a background check, pass a credit check, pass a physical exam, with these a pretty large section of our population will never get a good job. Even minimum wage job demand these for employment.

If the Dem are using entitlement programs to buy votes why didn't it work when Ronald Reagan won 2 presidential election, or when George H Bush won, or George W Bush won 2???? These programs have existed for decades, oh but now for some reason the majority are voting because of entitlements?

Add it up since 1980 there have been 20 years under Republican presidents and 13 years under a Democrat, so what side has messed this country up?

You really need to walk away from the right wing noise buzzing in your ear, the hate and stress will eat you up and make you sick, then you can try these entitlements for yourself.

Seriously have a smoke, or a drink, get a message!!! Its not natural for one human to hate another because they are sick or poor unless your being conditioned.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 09:02 PM
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So obese people are not nourished? I would agree that they are eating bad food, but to suggest that a person who is 40 lbs overweight is not nourished is a very interesting interpretation. A person who is 40 lbs underweight is not nourished. Starving, malnourished people don't have to but XXXL clothing. I think that so many of these people claim that good food is too expensive, I disagree. When I used to eat fast food regularly it was much more expensive than when I go to the store and buy fresh whole foods, vegetables, meats and all that stuff. Obese people on welfare and disability are making their own destiny and passing it onto their children.

You people need to stop making excuses for Americans that choose to live in poverty. Immigrants come here and put their kids in Harvard in 1 or 2 generations. They do it by sacrificing and working hard, not by sitting around on welfare and disability and blaming everyone else for their problems.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 11:11 PM
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HERES an IDEA

bring back the JOBS and we can ALL EAT WHATEVER WE WANT.

just for future reference, TAXING the big evil rich corporations that would be hiring you, does not encourage them to COME BACK. NOR DOES IT ENCOURAGE THEM TO HIRE YOU.

enjoy your rice-a-roni. its on sale right now at EBT-mart for a handful of hope and a little bit of change. just pray there isnt a glitch...or pray that there is....im still not sure which...



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 11:22 PM
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LadyLurker
God forbid you plant a few seeds.

i shoot squirrels all the time. a can of 250 pellets at walmart is freaking 2 dollars...

even if your a bad shot thats enough squirrels to feed you for months, and they taste a hell of a lot better than most of that crap in the picture.


I guess we can go down the road of canning and growing your own food.... I have no true need to grow my own food and can but I do....and it is cheap, so cheap that if I had to live on Government subsistence I would do it every chance I could. This is coming from a person who can afford just about anything any given night of the week, but I still grow good food and can for the quality of it all.

Veggies that are allowed to ripen on the vine/plant is amazing...
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posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 11:26 PM
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LurkingRelentlessly
HERES an IDEA

bring back the JOBS and we can ALL EAT WHATEVER WE WANT.



You sound like the guy that once shoveled horse crap about 10 years after the car was invented...People need to move on and get skills that they do not need to compete with illegal aliens or India for.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 11:37 PM
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Add it up since 1980 there have been 20 years under Republican presidents and 13 years under a Democrat, so what side has messed this country up?


I guess one would needs to figure out if they are better off today than they were in 2008. For me I was better off in 2008. While I was in the military the 1980s were amazing for me. The 1990s really sucked, and the 2000s were once again really good, so I'm not following you with the whole 20 to 12 thing...



You really need to walk away from the right wing noise buzzing in your ear, the hate and stress will eat you up and make you sick, then you can try these entitlements for yourself.


I don't know...has Obama been your guy? Are you so well off? Personally I'm at the point that neither side really affect me very much. My health care went up 400% and my cost of living has gone up about 30% these last few years, but in the end I'm not a family on the edge of barely making it before to be 30% or more underwater today.




Seriously have a smoke, or a drink, get a message!!! Its not natural for one human to hate another because they are sick or poor unless your being conditioned.


Luckily I still can afford all this, so I'm good...



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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 12:19 AM
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I was reading some of your other posts and I see many problems with your story here.

You are sobbing about not being taken care of by the government because you have mental issues but in a thread I read says you love playing cod and have something like 120 days of game play, then in another thread you talk about ways you are going to make and sell fishing gear with a bunch of tools you bought and have no idea on how they work, and my favorite one is when you said that you eat a lot of fish that you catch yourself and catching your own food saves you a lot of money.

If you can sit if front of a t.v and play a total of 120 days worth of games and you can fish and catch your own food to save money then I don't know what your problem is other then looking for sympathy.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 06:00 AM
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maybe i should just move to india.

or be trendy and obtain a worthless job using someone elses identity and supplement it with handouts. apply for credit and then ruin it all. rinse and repeat.

whats a fargo cost these days... few hundred? :\



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 08:32 AM
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good on you mate, I have not had a steak for over 20 years' although the fact that a vegetarian may have something to do with it lol.
Never attack the poor for if you do, even if you have all the riches in the world you are a very poor human being in my book.

It has to be said I don't attack the rich either as I have known a lot of rich people who would give you the shirt off their back.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 09:01 AM
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Serdgiam

You are minimizing my perspective to fit into some box you have already labelled me. The issue is far deeper than you seem to understand. Example: Money is only a form of resource exchange, it can and does happen in other viable ways. But this is not being used to help people in need. I can go into this more, but you obviously are having a conversation with someone in your head that you have created.

Oh good grief. I guess next you will pitch a fire, and sing a song???
Money is used as the payment for goods and/or services. There are many other forms of payment, I am very aware of this.



Serdgiam

Yeah, you would be surprised at how similar it is if you actually read what I was saying.

I am reading it.


Serdgiam

I was talking about the government programs, why would you think everything is about you?

It was addressed directly to me. Why not actually speak to me, as opposed to talking at me, and maybe speak clearly and drop the poetic angle.


Serdgiam

From your perspective, the answer is obvious. Despite reality being quite different...

I guess is truly is obvious then. As you repeat the defense of "well, what solution do you have" BS, it is very clear where you get your marching orders from.



Serdgiam

You realize that to receive assistance, you must pay into the system first, correct? And that in accordance to what has been paid in, that is what you receive. Regardless, the system is BROKEN. Let me repeat that; THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.

Oh really???
So, the person on Welfare Actually pays into the system? Oh, by paying sales tax on the items purchased, with the money they didn't earn, first stolen from me.
The Broken Window angle on life. How very, Keynesian of you.


Serdgiam

You arent even remotely catching what I am throwing here. Nor do you seem to understand how the actual system works, or what percentage of your paycheck actually goes to things, or what things you should actually be angry about. Not only do I want smaller government and lower taxes, I go beyond that in wanting the taxes that ARE paid to be used efficiently. But, you automatically disagree due to some thing you have in your mind. It seems the plan is working splendidly on parts of the population.

Oh geez, I guess that my avatar statement is true to form. I am just a Savage. If you would not speak in riddles, and go the plain route, maybe it could be conveyed and understood easier.
I agree with you in the realm of Smaller Govt, Less Taxes.
There is nothing in the laws about Govt being efficient. There are laws in place limiting its powers. The efficiency game is a throw back to the idea that we as people need to be managed. No thanks.
Govt was built to have limited powers.


Serdgiam

So, you are entirely against providing support in real life terms, like cooking education, efficient shopping practices, nutrition, gardening, etc because you want it to STAY as just throwing money at the problem? That makes no sense to me, perhaps you can explain. So, when you say you dont want to help people and government is helping to create abusers, and I say we should create a system that enables citizens to be self sufficient and independent, we are agreeing. But I was obviously right about the "red-zone"
Tax money towards those things is not needed. The Govt has no business in providing such things.


Serdgiam

That wasnt my point, and you are off on some tirade of your own making. By creating dependence, we stifle education, creativity, and innovation. The governmental systems do this.
Well, you are correct in that statement.


Serdgiam

Would you mind putting it, in writing, that such things coming from a lower bracket will not be used by you?

So you move from actually making sense, to this???
When did I say anything remotely towards this??



Serdgiam
I would consider it theft, since otherwise, you would be receiving all of the results of my hard work for free.

Market and sell it. If it is good, I will purchase it.
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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 09:03 AM
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I agree. I, me, Macman....feel the need to help others. But.....I do it on my own accord. I don't need the Govt to steal from me to give to others. Nor do I need nor want the Govt to steal from others to give to me.


I help when I can and with what I can. It is my own personal decision.
Not one to be made for me.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 09:06 AM
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Hahahahahaha. The Right Wing Govt has stooped people from working???

Now I have heard it all.

And when have I ever stated I hate someone that is sick or poor. Please show me....

I will wait.

























That is what I thought.



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