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I hate it when people get this wrong.
reply to post by Indigo5
So to clear this up...The GOP has no one who can win. Hilary would mop the floor with all of them. I don't like Hilary but I know she is no lightweight. This is going to get ugly in 2016. I'm calling for a blow out.
I'm not convinced the Hillary would be unbeatable for the Republicans. Her name does to the right what the Bush name does to the left
- any nameless joe on the right who nobody would get excited about voting for could outperform expectations with his base just because he is running against someone Republicans love to hate.
Not only that, she's saddled with Obama's legacy, which is equally offensive to right wing sensibilities.
Meanwhile Hillary actually left a bad taste in the mouths of some democrats when she tried to take Obama's nomination through the super delegates, in defiance of the popular vote in the primaries. Furthermore after Obama failed to roll back the Bush police state, I don't think it's going to be easy to get young idealists on the left to mobilize again.
Last but not least, Hillary Clinton is now not just a woman, but a white haired old woman. For all the progress we've made, we still haven't actually had a woman win a nation wide election in this country yet. God knows Palin deserved every mean-spirited thing that was said about her plus a few additional things that I forced myself not to say, but she still did prove the point that even among liberals, stereotypes against women in politics are not completely off limits yet.
It wouldn't take as strong a challenger as Obama was in 2008 to upset Hillary yet again and finally doom her to remain only a footnote in American political history. There is even a remote chance that a dark horse could beat her in the primaries if conditions were right.
. In the end so long as there's an "R" against Hillary, most rightwing voters will rally.
So Chris Christie only needs to play the game with the tea party, be patronizing, and he should have a decent shot at the nomination come 2016... that is providing he keeps his plate relatively clean between now and then.
Its not a matter of crossover votes in my mind, it's a matter of base turnout in key states. Hillary can set all kinds of records in places like New York and California, but she's going to mobilize more Republicans than Democrats in places like North Carolina, creating at the very least a much closer race than anything Obama faced.
It'll be Hillary vs Christie in 2016. Book it.
Oh, and if Hillary gets in, we'll look back fondly at the good old Obama days. Hillary won't win because Benghazi will be put out there and not even 10% of the full story is out yet.