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kurthall
reply to post by burdman30ott6
WTH? STHU, that is NOT what I was saying, and maybe you need to be taken down a notch. So I guess you think I deserve to die because I can not see a Dr. because because I lost my great job and had to take a lesser with no benifits? BTW, this country went to hell when Bush was in office. Man some people are freaking stupid. I concider what you said a personal attack.
elouina
MichaelPMaccabee
reply to post by grandmakdw
What aren't you getting?
Do you think I am here to badmouth Republicans and ignore the shortcomings of Democrats? BOTH are culpable. ACA was modeled after an insurance program run by Mitt Romney when he was governor! Democrats my be in charge NOW, but that doesn't mean that they are the only devil in the room. The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL.
www.gp.org...
Please educate yourself on the values of the Green Party.edit on 6-11-2013 by MichaelPMaccabee because: (no reason given)
Since you are claiming Obamacre is like Romney care please explain their similarities in great detail. I will enjoy this one.
MichaelPMaccabee
elouina
MichaelPMaccabee
reply to post by grandmakdw
What aren't you getting?
Do you think I am here to badmouth Republicans and ignore the shortcomings of Democrats? BOTH are culpable. ACA was modeled after an insurance program run by Mitt Romney when he was governor! Democrats my be in charge NOW, but that doesn't mean that they are the only devil in the room. The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL.
www.gp.org...
Please educate yourself on the values of the Green Party.edit on 6-11-2013 by MichaelPMaccabee because: (no reason given)
Since you are claiming Obamacre is like Romney care please explain their similarities in great detail. I will enjoy this one.
I guess you're right. They are totally different.
ACA's penalty on the Individual Mandate is $695 and Romney's was $1,200.
ACA subsidizes people at 400% of poverty, Romney's was only 300%, but they received more money.
ACA mandates employers with 50 or more employees or pay $2000 per employee. Romney mandated for 11 employees and only about 300 bucks per penalty. Romney's plan effected far more small businesses.
Both plans eliminate pre-existing conditions
So many more avenues to go on, but that gets to the heart of it.
Wookiep
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
Well, to be fair, if Bush proposed "Bushcare" and it was exactly like this ACA? Then I would be blaming Bush. I think you're in denial with your democrat.. I mean green party bias.
kurthall
reply to post by elouina
Oh yeah, that wonderful thing called Cobra. They wanted $600 per month to cover me. I live in LA, Do you have ANY idea how much money it cost to live here...I had just lost my job, had a car payment, car insurance(can't drive without it), Rent, Food to buy, gas for car, so yeah I guess I could so easily afford $600 per month Cobra. BTW, I did for 3 months, use Cobra, until I simply could not afford it.
elouina
MichaelPMaccabee
elouina
MichaelPMaccabee
reply to post by grandmakdw
What aren't you getting?
Do you think I am here to badmouth Republicans and ignore the shortcomings of Democrats? BOTH are culpable. ACA was modeled after an insurance program run by Mitt Romney when he was governor! Democrats my be in charge NOW, but that doesn't mean that they are the only devil in the room. The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL.
www.gp.org...
Please educate yourself on the values of the Green Party.edit on 6-11-2013 by MichaelPMaccabee because: (no reason given)
Since you are claiming Obamacre is like Romney care please explain their similarities in great detail. I will enjoy this one.
I guess you're right. They are totally different.
ACA's penalty on the Individual Mandate is $695 and Romney's was $1,200.
ACA subsidizes people at 400% of poverty, Romney's was only 300%, but they received more money.
ACA mandates employers with 50 or more employees or pay $2000 per employee. Romney mandated for 11 employees and only about 300 bucks per penalty. Romney's plan effected far more small businesses.
Both plans eliminate pre-existing conditions
So many more avenues to go on, but that gets to the heart of it.
You just spouted off a bunch of garbage here. When I get inside off my Ipad I will put the work into something you did not.
As for the penalty, we are talking thousands of dollars for a middle class family in 2016. 695$ is the least you can pay per person! I will post more detail in a bit like I said.
MichaelPMaccabee
Wookiep
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
Well, to be fair, if Bush proposed "Bushcare" and it was exactly like this ACA? Then I would be blaming Bush. I think you're in denial with your democrat.. I mean green party bias.
Read this.
Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the # storm that is the ACA.
There, are you happy?
Cynic
Ouch with a capital Reaming!
Total Bummer folks.
I live in Canada, the Great-White-North.
My health care is free.
elouina
burdman30ott6
reply to post by kurthall
Translation:
"I'm sorry for your hardship, but it is necessary so that I won't have to experience my own hardship."
Socialism for the debts, corporatism for the profits... the Frankenstein monster of the Obama administration.
Thank you! And you know what else? There is cobra. We paid cobra for years through my moms insurance, when me and my husband first got married. Insurance was there, you just had to pay for it yourself by working hard.
Wookiep
MichaelPMaccabee
Wookiep
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
Well, to be fair, if Bush proposed "Bushcare" and it was exactly like this ACA? Then I would be blaming Bush. I think you're in denial with your democrat.. I mean green party bias.
Read this.
Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the # storm that is the ACA.
There, are you happy?
Yes! Thanks, star for you. Just wish it didn't take so long. I'm not trying to throw out your other points either, but we are talking about the here and now. So thanks again!
elouina
kurthall
reply to post by elouina
Oh yeah, that wonderful thing called Cobra. They wanted $600 per month to cover me. I live in LA, Do you have ANY idea how much money it cost to live here...I had just lost my job, had a car payment, car insurance(can't drive without it), Rent, Food to buy, gas for car, so yeah I guess I could so easily afford $600 per month Cobra. BTW, I did for 3 months, use Cobra, until I simply could not afford it.
Fair enough, so it is expensive, huh? That is a heck of a lot of money. So how do you expect all that money to be paid without others suffering? You know others working two jobs so you can get yours?
Obamacare should have been about controlling costs and not burdening others with them.edit on 6-11-2013 by elouina because: (no reason given)
kurthall
reply to post by burdman30ott6
WTH? STHU, that is NOT what I was saying, and maybe you need to be taken down a notch. So I guess you think I deserve to die because I can not see a Dr. because because I lost my great job and had to take a lesser with no benifits? BTW, this country went to hell when Bush was in office. Man some people are freaking stupid. I concider what you said a personal attack.