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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:50 PM
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kurthall
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WTH? STHU, that is NOT what I was saying, and maybe you need to be taken down a notch. So I guess you think I deserve to die because I can not see a Dr. because because I lost my great job and had to take a lesser with no benifits? BTW, this country went to hell when Bush was in office. Man some people are freaking stupid. I concider what you said a personal attack.


Did you read my post concerning cobra? What, you only want insurance if it is paid for by someone else?
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:52 PM
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elouina

MichaelPMaccabee
reply to post by grandmakdw
 


What aren't you getting?

Do you think I am here to badmouth Republicans and ignore the shortcomings of Democrats? BOTH are culpable. ACA was modeled after an insurance program run by Mitt Romney when he was governor! Democrats my be in charge NOW, but that doesn't mean that they are the only devil in the room. The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL.

www.gp.org...

Please educate yourself on the values of the Green Party.
edit on 6-11-2013 by MichaelPMaccabee because: (no reason given)


Since you are claiming Obamacre is like Romney care please explain their similarities in great detail. I will enjoy this one.


I guess you're right. They are totally different.

ACA's penalty on the Individual Mandate is $695 and Romney's was $1,200.

ACA subsidizes people at 400% of poverty, Romney's was only 300%, but they received more money.

ACA mandates employers with 50 or more employees or pay $2000 per employee. Romney mandated for 11 employees and only about 300 bucks per penalty. Romney's plan effected far more small businesses.

Both plans eliminate pre-existing conditions

So many more avenues to go on, but that gets to the heart of it.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:53 PM
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LOL, I guess because I didn't vote for Obama that I don't qualify for any help or medicare. Imagine that. Why am I not surprised? I don't even make more than 9k a year. What a joke...Now, I can't even sign up for any healthcare until I resolve my stupid account. Which I have no clue as to what to even do. And they want us to sign up for healthcare.
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:53 PM
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Oh yeah, that wonderful thing called Cobra. They wanted $600 per month to cover me. I live in LA, Do you have ANY idea how much money it cost to live here...I had just lost my job, had a car payment, car insurance(can't drive without it), Rent, Food to buy, gas for car, so yeah I guess I could so easily afford $600 per month Cobra. BTW, I did for 3 months, use Cobra, until I simply could not afford it.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:54 PM
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Have I said that the Democrats are blameless?

Nope.

I blame all of them, Democrats and Republicans.

It's only those with partisan interests that blame one and not the other.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:56 PM
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reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
 


Well, to be fair, if Bush proposed "Bushcare" and it was exactly like this ACA? Then I would be blaming Bush and the republicans. I think you're in denial with your democrat.. I mean green party bias.
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:58 PM
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MichaelPMaccabee

elouina

MichaelPMaccabee
reply to post by grandmakdw
 


What aren't you getting?

Do you think I am here to badmouth Republicans and ignore the shortcomings of Democrats? BOTH are culpable. ACA was modeled after an insurance program run by Mitt Romney when he was governor! Democrats my be in charge NOW, but that doesn't mean that they are the only devil in the room. The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL.

www.gp.org...

Please educate yourself on the values of the Green Party.
edit on 6-11-2013 by MichaelPMaccabee because: (no reason given)


Since you are claiming Obamacre is like Romney care please explain their similarities in great detail. I will enjoy this one.


I guess you're right. They are totally different.

ACA's penalty on the Individual Mandate is $695 and Romney's was $1,200.

ACA subsidizes people at 400% of poverty, Romney's was only 300%, but they received more money.

ACA mandates employers with 50 or more employees or pay $2000 per employee. Romney mandated for 11 employees and only about 300 bucks per penalty. Romney's plan effected far more small businesses.

Both plans eliminate pre-existing conditions

So many more avenues to go on, but that gets to the heart of it.


You just spouted off a bunch of garbage here. When I get inside off my Ipad I will put the work into something you did not.

As for the penalty, we are talking thousands of dollars for a middle class family in 2016. 695$ is the least you can pay per person! I will post more detail in a bit like I said.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:58 PM
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reply to post by IAMTAT
 


Two things:

1) You are complaining that you will no longer have a sub-standard insurance policy that probably would have screwed you in the end if you ever tried to use it.

2) You really shouldn't trust the insurance company. Many insurance companies are doing this for one simple reason...more money. They could have grandfathered your policy in (assuming you have held that policy for a few years), but that costs them money...so it is easier for them to cancel it. Also, how nice of them...they are going to automatically going to unroll you into a more expensive plan...no no...don't go look at the other options out there on the exchanges...they got you covered. Do yourself a favor, drop you blinded hate and go check out other plans before you allow the insurance company to make the decision for you.


People's anger is so misdirected...I really don't think most of you even know why you are angry.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Yep. If your plan was cancelled, it was junk. I do laugh at all the people getting upset about this since they really had no insurance anyway. woman on CBS had junk insurance

I'm tired of leaches getting virtually nonexistent health insurance, then when the fecal matter hits the fan, you just go to the ER, or go bankrupt. You leaches need to have some individual responsibility instead of living off of the generosity of others or taking advantage of hospitals that turn away patients. But these leaches will be the first to complain that an aspirin will cost $10 at a hospital. Hey, that is the markup they need to cover all the people that don't pay their bills.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Ouch with a capital Reaming!
Total Bummer folks.
I live in Canada, the Great-White-North.
My health care is free.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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Wookiep
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
 


Well, to be fair, if Bush proposed "Bushcare" and it was exactly like this ACA? Then I would be blaming Bush. I think you're in denial with your democrat.. I mean green party bias.


Read this.

Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the # storm that is the ACA.

There, are you happy?

This # storm piece of trash legislation would not be possible without Nixon's HMO Act.

Obama's use of wiretaps and drones would not be possible without Bush's Patriot Act.

To think that one acts within a vacuum of the other is naive.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:02 PM
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kurthall
reply to post by elouina
 


Oh yeah, that wonderful thing called Cobra. They wanted $600 per month to cover me. I live in LA, Do you have ANY idea how much money it cost to live here...I had just lost my job, had a car payment, car insurance(can't drive without it), Rent, Food to buy, gas for car, so yeah I guess I could so easily afford $600 per month Cobra. BTW, I did for 3 months, use Cobra, until I simply could not afford it.


Fair enough, so it is expensive, huh? That is a heck of a lot of money. So how do you expect all that money to be paid without others suffering? You know others working two jobs so you can get yours?

Obamacare should have been about controlling costs and not burdening others with them.
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:03 PM
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elouina

MichaelPMaccabee

elouina

MichaelPMaccabee
reply to post by grandmakdw
 


What aren't you getting?

Do you think I am here to badmouth Republicans and ignore the shortcomings of Democrats? BOTH are culpable. ACA was modeled after an insurance program run by Mitt Romney when he was governor! Democrats my be in charge NOW, but that doesn't mean that they are the only devil in the room. The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL.

www.gp.org...

Please educate yourself on the values of the Green Party.
edit on 6-11-2013 by MichaelPMaccabee because: (no reason given)


Since you are claiming Obamacre is like Romney care please explain their similarities in great detail. I will enjoy this one.


I guess you're right. They are totally different.

ACA's penalty on the Individual Mandate is $695 and Romney's was $1,200.

ACA subsidizes people at 400% of poverty, Romney's was only 300%, but they received more money.

ACA mandates employers with 50 or more employees or pay $2000 per employee. Romney mandated for 11 employees and only about 300 bucks per penalty. Romney's plan effected far more small businesses.

Both plans eliminate pre-existing conditions

So many more avenues to go on, but that gets to the heart of it.


You just spouted off a bunch of garbage here. When I get inside off my Ipad I will put the work into something you did not.

As for the penalty, we are talking thousands of dollars for a middle class family in 2016. 695$ is the least you can pay per person! I will post more detail in a bit like I said.



Yeah, I really don't care to continue arguing it. Both are crap pieces of legislation. But yeah, let's compare polished turds and see which is shiniest.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:04 PM
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MichaelPMaccabee

Wookiep
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
 


Well, to be fair, if Bush proposed "Bushcare" and it was exactly like this ACA? Then I would be blaming Bush. I think you're in denial with your democrat.. I mean green party bias.


Read this.

Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the # storm that is the ACA.

There, are you happy?



Yes! Thanks, star for you. Just wish it didn't take so long. I'm not trying to throw out your other points either, but we are talking about the here and now. So thanks again!



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:05 PM
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Cynic
Ouch with a capital Reaming!
Total Bummer folks.
I live in Canada, the Great-White-North.
My health care is free.


No it is not free, How much is taken out of your Paychecks in taxes, and what is your property tax? No it is not free ,you are all paying for it. I am not saying that is a bad thing.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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elouina

burdman30ott6
reply to post by kurthall
 


Translation:
"I'm sorry for your hardship, but it is necessary so that I won't have to experience my own hardship."

Socialism for the debts, corporatism for the profits... the Frankenstein monster of the Obama administration.


Thank you! And you know what else? There is cobra. We paid cobra for years through my moms insurance, when me and my husband first got married. Insurance was there, you just had to pay for it yourself by working hard.


COBRA is not insurance. COBRA is a law that says that upon termination of employment (quit, fired, laid off, doesn't matter) you MUST be offered your current insurance plan from 18-36 months if you pay all the premiums. It's designed as a stop-gap when you are between jobs--as long as you pay for it. It doesn't last forever, and it is not the same as an individual plan.

Now someone up there said something like "You ave to remember that your previous plan did not meet all the requirements of the ACA, so that's why it's being cancelled."

Like that justifies it. OBAMA SAID: "IF YOU LIKE YOUR CURRENT PLAN, YOU CAN KEEP IT."

Is there anything about that statement that you fail to understand? I LIKED MY PLAN. It meant MY requirements, but because the government decided it does not meet THEIR requirements, MY plan, the one I liked, is cancelled.

I simply do not understand how you can gloss over this blatant lie, this totalitarian strong-arm tactic, by saying, "Well, it doesn't meet the ACA requirements," or, "Well, I need insurance and this will give it to me, so screw you" kind of attitude. This whole thing passed Congress BECAUSE Obama told the American people,

"If you like your current plan, you can keep it."

So people said, OK, I'm happy with my plan. I can keep it, so there's nothing wrong with Obamacare, so I'm not opposed to it,

and THAT'S why it passed.

Ask yourself: If people knew back then what they know today about Obamacare, would it have passed?



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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Wookiep

MichaelPMaccabee

Wookiep
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
 


Well, to be fair, if Bush proposed "Bushcare" and it was exactly like this ACA? Then I would be blaming Bush. I think you're in denial with your democrat.. I mean green party bias.


Read this.

Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the # storm that is the ACA.

There, are you happy?



Yes! Thanks, star for you. Just wish it didn't take so long. I'm not trying to throw out your other points either, but we are talking about the here and now. So thanks again!


The here and now are affected by everything that has come before. To dismiss the Republicans role in our current Healthcare System is just as egregious as dismissing the Democrats role in it. As I have said, BOTH are culpable, and until people get out of their comfort zones and see that things are horrible under Democratic AND Republican leadership, nothing is going to change.

However, it is just about scoring blame points, that's fine too.
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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elouina

kurthall
reply to post by elouina
 


Oh yeah, that wonderful thing called Cobra. They wanted $600 per month to cover me. I live in LA, Do you have ANY idea how much money it cost to live here...I had just lost my job, had a car payment, car insurance(can't drive without it), Rent, Food to buy, gas for car, so yeah I guess I could so easily afford $600 per month Cobra. BTW, I did for 3 months, use Cobra, until I simply could not afford it.


Fair enough, so it is expensive, huh? That is a heck of a lot of money. So how do you expect all that money to be paid without others suffering? You know others working two jobs so you can get yours?

Obamacare should have been about controlling costs and not burdening others with them.
edit on 6-11-2013 by elouina because: (no reason given)


I am working, but in case you have not noticed, even before this whole AHCA mess started, a lot of company's were cutting back insurance, getting rid of it, changing it for lesser (crap) policies. So right now My job offers NO insurance, unless you were "grandfathered" in. So your SOL if you are a new employee.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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Cobra can continue longer if they are willing. So what would be wrong with a bill saying, you must keep them on? And regulating the increases in premium? There now it lasts longer... That was pretty simple now wasn't that?



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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kurthall
reply to post by burdman30ott6
 


WTH? STHU, that is NOT what I was saying, and maybe you need to be taken down a notch. So I guess you think I deserve to die because I can not see a Dr. because because I lost my great job and had to take a lesser with no benifits? BTW, this country went to hell when Bush was in office. Man some people are freaking stupid. I concider what you said a personal attack.


That's exactly what you (and a number of others) are saying. A segment of America is struggling with the abillity to pay for everything they want, so they support the passage of laws like the ACA that subsidize the lives they wish to be living via taxing the hell out of Americans who can and do provide for themselves.

I've said this many times and, to be real honest I could not care less how personally insulted you or anyone else is by me saying it because it is the truth... I'm personally insulted by the various hands that are constantly jammed into my wallet everytime I turn around.

Also it's about time for the hyperbolic nonsense to stop... you weren't going to die before the ACA. You were, however, going to have to learn how to budget tightly and learn how to trim your fat until you reached the point where the feds would step in and subsidize your butt under the previous system. Nobody was denied real life saving treatment because they couldn't afford it... they were given a means test for longer term care and expected to decrease their quality of life to cover THEIR OWN expenses before the rest of us chipped in. Under this system it's everybody else who is expected to decrease their quality of life to cover YOUR expenses.

I believe a man is entitled to the money he earns, right off the top with no hands going "gimme gimme!" at him on payday. Exactly who's greedy here anyway? The man expecting to keep the highest percentage of his own blood, sweat, and tears as possible, or the man who declares that they're entitled to the benefits of everyone else's labors just because their position in life is "hard?"





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