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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:37 PM
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Wookiep
If they extend or especially expand it, no matter who is in office then I hope we see rioting in the streets. Seriously, should have been happening already IMO but I think the ignorance of people has kept everyone too docile for now..
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It isn't ignorance that keeps them docile, it is comfort.

This is why the comfortable need to be made uncomfortable.

Make more people uncomfortable, and the rioting will start.




posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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MichaelPMaccabee
I'm willing to be penalized and will pay the penalty.


Unless you're owed a refund, don't bother. Remember, that fat, lazy statement applies to the government, too. By refusing to fund them, they will know what hunger feels like and (one can dream) starve to death.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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Hillary repeal it???

That is LOL for the day!

Hillary tried and failed to pass legislation nearly identical to the ACA when her hubby was in office, that was to be her signature work as "first lady". It was nicknamed Hillary care just like it is called Obamacare today.

I can guarantee with 100% certainty that she would never repeal it if she became president.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:40 PM
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I have no choice but to be mad at Obama, Im mad at my employers but I can't quit, there is no jobs where I'm at, I've tried to get another job but there is nothing but part time fast food worker and they do not give any benefits to part time workers.

I can't quit my job or I'm homeless. Obama caused this to happen, if he kept his ignorant ass out of health system he has no clue about any of it I'd still be insured.

Mess with peoples money and livelihood that tard is gonna wind up like JFK
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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Jim Scott
The problem with these rants is that they are absent many facts.

What I see is people getting better coverage for a lot less than they would have to pay individually.

My guess is that the OP policy had a very large deductible/copay/coinsurance to keep his monthly payment down. That works fine if you are perpetually healthy. However, wait until the big C hits (cancer) or you have huge payments. Been there, done that.


You are assuming what should be common sense vs. fact. In actuality, many people are getting much larger deductibles and paying much more. The caviar comes with a cost which also means more out of pocket.

And there is such thing as a simple bill to regulate preexisting conditions and premium increases.
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:42 PM
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reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
 


I actually wish you were right, but there is so much ignorance within "liberals" when it comes to this current administration that I'm almost willing to bet that they could be starving barefoot in the street and still defend Obama. Being uncomfortable means nothing to this crowd, it's really weird. I know way too many liberals who ignore all the lying, the shortcomings from things like this ACA or NDAA etc. All they care about is rasicm, it's the only thing on their minds no matter if the country is going to hell in a handbasket. So in this case at least, I think the problem is extreme ignorance.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:44 PM
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MichaelPMaccabee

Wookiep
If they extend or especially expand it, no matter who is in office then I hope we see rioting in the streets. Seriously, should have been happening already IMO but I think the ignorance of people has kept everyone too docile for now..
edit on 6-11-2013 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)


It isn't ignorance that keeps them docile, it is comfort.

This is why the comfortable need to be made uncomfortable.

Make more people uncomfortable, and the rioting will start.



And you are saying:Text
"I want rioting

I want to see people slaughtered for my cause."

You really don't have a soul do you, you seem to want as much misery as possible for the maximum number of people possible, and to what end?

Do you think Big Brother is going to be the solution (read 1981 if you dare). That is exactly what will happen if the rioting you are salivating over happened. Also, try reading Atlas Shrugged if you dare, we are nearly there right now, it could have been written today it was so prophetic. If you haven't read these books, I challenge you to do so, they are so psychically prophetic of today,s world it is scarey.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:44 PM
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I love your excuse driven crap.

They liked their plan, regardless of what the Govt thought was "best" for us.

It is truly amazing that people that protect and defend this douchebag 0bama, completely avoid the topic that people liked their plan, and are being forced off it, due to 0bamacare being rammed down everyone's throats. You and others may find comfort in being told what is best for you by the Govt. Most people don't.
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:45 PM
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I'd like to say that I agree with you. All the people in this thread are getting mad at you because I think they are misunderstanding your points. I understand the points completely. You aren't exactly happy for these people that they are uncomfortable, but you are happy that due to the discomfort, change will follow. You are right too.

I also agree with your blame towards both parties. I'm not a Green Party member, but I am a Libertarian and I despise both the Republicans and Democrats equally. To blame one in a vacuum because they are the current party in charge is folly and helps to perpetuate the two party fail system that we have. Sure the Democrats are largely, mostly, and directly to blame for the debacle that is the PPACA; but like you said there are things that can be traced back to the Republicans like Romneycare. Both parties work equally to strip our rights and we should be doing everything we can to denounce them both not just one or the other, even if one happens to be more directly responsible for the mess we are in right now.

It's a shame that many people in this thread (and even this site) are so wrapped up in their partisan hate that they can't see across party lines or look to the past. Fun fact, 5 years ago really isn't that long ago. I'm not sure why we ignore the wrongdoings of the party in charge like it was ancient history or something all because a new party is in charge.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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AlienScience
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If they extend or especially expand it, no matter who is in office then I hope we see rioting in the streets. Seriously, should have been happening already IMO but I think the ignorance of people has kept everyone too docile for now..


Yes...let's riot because we can no longer be kicked off of our insurance plan when we get sick...let's riot because we no longer have pre-existing conditions...let's riot because we no longer have an annual/lifetime cap of coverage....

Or no...let's not riot...because we have nothing to riot about.


You obviously are not paying attention. Anyway, we all know you love and adore the ACA and your dear leader. Just FYI, because of your very extreme bias, I will not be responding your posts because from what I have seen from all your posts, there simply is no point.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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$821 per month for health insurance
that's crazy, come to England and you'll pay $0 for health care
even the dentist is free if your out of work or on a low income.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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burdman30ott6

AlienScience
They are not required to change a damn thing this year...they are doing this for their own gain...the ACA isn't forcing them to do it.


Oh? Perhaps the plans weren't up to snuff with the ACA rules and that was why they were canceled? You know things like offering OBGYN maternity care insurance to single males is awfully important and we can't have plans that don't cover it now, can we? Statements like you just made are what got Obama caught in a liar's web when he loudly declared "If you like your current insurance, you can keep it." (and was thankfully videotaped numerous times saying it, or else the sheep would simply contentedly bleat along with his current claim that he never said that.)


And plans like those should be grandfathered in...that is unless the insurance company itself or the employer has decided to CUT benefits or drastically raise cost on this particular plan since March 2010.

The thing is that the insurance companies weren't required to keep these grandfathered plans...nothing Obama can do about that. Everyone assumed the insurance companies would not force millions out of grandfathered plans that have been making them money, that can cover less and make them more profit. But that is exactly what they are doing.

Obama or the ACA aren't requiring them to do this...they are doing this on their own.

So yes, this guys work is lying their ass off to them if they are blaming the ACA.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:51 PM
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Cito
reply to post by AlienScience
 


I have no choice but to be mad at Obama, Im mad at my employers but I can't quit, there is no jobs where I'm at, I've tried to get another job but there is nothing but part time fast food worker and they do not give any benefits to part time workers.

I can't quit my job or I'm homeless. Obama caused this to happen, if he kept his ignorant ass out of health system he has no clue about any of it I'd still be insured.

Mess with peoples money and livelihood that tard is gonna wind up like JFK
edit on 11/6/2013 by Cito because: (no reason given)


Or you could be angry at your employer. Talk with your co-workers and confront them...let them know that all of you aren't happy and that you KNOW that the ACA isn't forcing them to do this, that they are doing this on their own to save money. Here is the thing, if they have more than 50 employees...they will be mandated to provide you health insurance next year anyway...and if they don't have 50 employees...the ACA was never going to effect them at all.

Your employer is screwing you...don't be mad at Obama because you work for a crappy employer. If you can't find a new job, that is your problem for not being marketable enough to get a new job...don't be mad at Obama because you didn't better yourself to put yourself in a more marketable situation.

Oh yeah, and enjoy your visit from the Secret Service with comments like your last line...I'm sure they will be interested in people issuing threats like that.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:52 PM
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seeker1963
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So do you honestly believe that the Republicans are not on the take of the Insurance Companies???? Seriously? We are talking lobbyists here, you know, the Corporations that pad the pockets of elected officials so that they become uber wealthy??? Take a good look at these hearings over the ACA. When was the last time anything EVER CHANGED, over these hearings??? It is political theater to create division! That is how these (dare I even call them) people get away with their crimes!

No matter which party is driving the bus, I can assure you, the other party is their to fill up the gas tank so the bus can keep on running.......


The way I look at it is even if the Republicans are on the take... I would seem to think they are doing exactly what the insurance lobbyists want them to do by trying to overturn Obamacare and defund it. The insurance companies realize that they are going to be hemorrhaging money soon when they have less people enrolled, and are paying for millions of people who haven't had health insurance for years to catch up and try cure whatever ailments they may have had that made them ineligible for coverage in the past. Many of them will probably have to see specialists (not cheap). There are many states where major insurance companies are no longer doing business. They have spot on actuaries who are probably close to having seizures right now as they look down the road and see that if the ACA is not swatted down in a year or two that they will be bankrupt as well. It's exactly what the government wants.. there is so much money to be made in the healthcare industry from the bottom up that they want to have absolute control over all of it. Republicans never voted for it, not a one.... and they partially shut down the government to show how little they support this law..... Just because you may not like them doesn't mean they are guilty of this sham...



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:52 PM
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Don't put words in my mouth, you can make a much more compelling point by simply quoting that exact radical language that I use.

Umm.. is 1981 a prequel to 1984?



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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Wookiep
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
 


I actually wish you were right, but there is so much ignorance within "liberals" when it comes to this current administration that I'm almost willing to bet that they could be starving barefoot in the street and still defend Obama. Being uncomfortable means nothing to this crowd, it's really weird. I know way too many liberals who ignore all the lying, the shortcomings from things like this ACA or NDAA etc. All they care about is rasicm, it's the only thing on their minds no matter if the country is going to hell in a handbasket. So in this case at least, I think the problem is extreme ignorance.


You clearly don't watch "Democracy Now."



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:58 PM
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Stop right there.. Even Obama himself admitted that there were things snuck into Obamacare that would break his promise. In 2010 the dems voted against allowing you to keep your insurance. And just recently sebilius admitted under testimony that the rules covering grandfathering were so tight that a $5 increase in your policies price nullified the grandfathering.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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burdman30ott6

MichaelPMaccabee
I'm willing to be penalized and will pay the penalty.


Unless you're owed a refund, don't bother. Remember, that fat, lazy statement applies to the government, too. By refusing to fund them, they will know what hunger feels like and (one can dream) starve to death.


The big secret is there is no way for the IRS to collect the penalty.
Toothless law



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 04:01 PM
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Wookiep
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee
 


I actually wish you were right, but there is so much ignorance within "liberals" when it comes to this current administration that I'm almost willing to bet that they could be starving barefoot in the street and still defend Obama. Being uncomfortable means nothing to this crowd, it's really weird. I know way too many liberals who ignore all the lying, the shortcomings from things like this ACA or NDAA etc. All they care about is rasicm, it's the only thing on their minds no matter if the country is going to hell in a handbasket. So in this case at least, I think the problem is extreme ignorance.


I can assure you, if people were barefoot in the streets en masse, like during the Depression, people would be angry, like during the Depression, and political office would be a revolving door until something stuck, like during the Depression.

We have the metrics from most of human existence to judge these things by. Iran's revolution was peaceful (for the most part), and it took only about 10% of the country to decide that they had had enough and they demanded something different. Sadly, what they got has been... well, horrible, but it was what the people wanted at the time, and the people with power are able to make certain others with power comfortable enough to continue to support them.

I'm not advocating a revolution, but even if 10 percent of the country decided that they had had enough and voted for something different, change would happen overnight.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 04:01 PM
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You clearly don't watch "Democracy Now."


True, I clearly don't..Are you saying there are actual liberals out there who are actually aware of the real issues and not soley stuck on racism at every turn? That's awesome if so... but the many I know are in some weird Obama trance who say nothing when things like NDAA or the lies are brought up, and just post daily Obama memes along with things about racism on facebook etc.. Day in day out, I swear it's really bizarre.
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