reply to post by Joecroft
17 The Spirit of Truth, Whom the world cannot receive (welcome, take to its heart), because it does not see Him or know and recognize Him. But you
know and recognize Him, for He lives with you [constantly] and will be in you.
18 I will not leave you as orphans [comfortless, desolate, bereaved, forlorn, helpless]; I will come [back] to you.
---This is the comforter given to man until we receive the Spirit of Truth. We know from the end of John 2 that Jesus would not entrust Himself to
those coming to Him. They were not ready.
19 Just a little while now, and the world will not see Me any more, but you will see Me; because I live, you will live also.
20 At that time [when that day comes] you will know [for yourselves] that I am in My Father, and you [are] in Me, and I [am] in you.
Is Christ in and through us? Yes. Of course. The Holy Spirit is not in us until the Spirit rises and the enemy is the footstool. Mankind is still
21 The person who has My commands and keeps them is the one who [really] loves Me; and whoever [really] loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I
[too] will love him and will show (reveal, manifest) Myself to him. [I will let Myself be clearly seen by him and make Myself real to him.]
22 Judas, not Iscariot, asked Him, Lord, how is it that You will reveal Yourself [make Yourself real] to us and not to the world?
23 Jesus answered, If a person [really] loves Me, he will keep My word [obey My teaching]; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and
make Our home (abode, special dwelling place) with him.
---Who is WE in the verse above? This would be all three members of the Trinity. Right now, we are deceived and still under sin and death. The
process is the revelation of the Father in Faith, then the Son in character, then the Spirit in holiness. Right now, we have not followed Christ.
None of us have. Have you sold all your possessions and given to the poor? Do you sin? Do you judge your brother? We are still deceived. The Day
of the Lord is the Day we receive all three members of the Trinity. We cannot claim the Spirit until we are Holy ourselves. We do not make ourselves
holy. We are made holy.
24 Anyone who does not [really] love Me does not observe and obey My teaching. And the teaching which you hear and heed is not Mine, but [comes] from
the Father Who sent Me.
25 I have told you these things while I am still with you.
26 But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My
place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your
remembrance) everything I have told you.
If we live once and then die, what of all the souls that have lived before Christ? If Christ is the firstfruits of those who sleep in the dust, then
where do they experience the promises in these words? The answer is being born again and resurrection. We must be here to experience these things.
ALL of us. Otherwise, these promises are only for the people born after Christ. If He is the firstfruits, and the dead are resurrected (Both
Righteous and Wicked), then explain how this works for them if they live once.
What did Paul say? Acts 24: 15 Having [the same] hope in God which these themselves hold and look for, that there is to be a resurrection both of the
righteous and the unrighteous (the just and the unjust).
Will both the righteous and wicked be here here for the resurrection?
27 Peace I leave with you; My [own] peace I now give and bequeath to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Do not let your hearts be troubled,
neither let them be afraid. [Stop allowing yourselves to be agitated and disturbed; and do not permit yourselves to be fearful and intimidated and
cowardly and unsettled.]
---Can someone with a Holy Spirit be described by these qualities?
28 You heard Me tell you, I am going away and I am coming [back] to you. If you [really] loved Me, you would have been glad, because I am going to the
Father; for the Father is greater and mightier than I am.
---Is Jesus God? Clearly, there is a relationship. The We is all three.
29 And now I have told you [this] before it occurs, so that when it does take place you may believe and have faith in and rely on Me.
---What takes place again? All the things leading up to the Day of the Lord, at event horizon of being transformed in the twinkling of an eye.
Again, has not happened yet.
30 I will not talk with you much more, for the prince (evil genius, ruler) of the world is coming. And he has no claim on Me. [He has nothing in
common with Me; there is nothing in Me that belongs to him, and he has no power over Me.]
31 But [Satan is coming and] I do as the Father has commanded Me, so that the world may know (be convinced) that I love the Father and that I do only
what the Father has instructed Me to do. [I act in full agreement with His orders.] Rise, let us go away from here.
I selected the amplified Bible so you can see the highlights to what is said. Are we marked with the Spirit? Yes. Are we Holy? No. Will we be?
Yes. When? When Christ appears and faith becomes fact. Until then, we have a comforter. If we had the Spirit, we would not be confused. Jesus
knew we would be confused. Why? Satan was coming to deceive the nations. He MUST be removed before we can have all things revealed.