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Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Here is an interesting and profound thought I've been having on spiritual enlightenment. It actually occured to me a few days ago, but I remembered that thought again whilst composing the previous post.
It goes a little like this "We are most spiritually enlightened when we know nothing" I received this thought when I was pondering over rebirth and the purpose of life. It is said that we reincarnate and have a succession of lives before we break free of the karmic wheel. It is unknown how many past lives we have lead, but it is suppose to a huge amount. Now suppose you spend all this life seeking spiritual enlightenment. You read all the spiritual scriptures and philosophies and build up a body of profound knowledge and you meditate and raise your vibrations. You become reveered as a Guru. Then you die and reincarnate, you are now a 3 year old child, you no longer have any of the knowledge of anything, heck you wet your dipers and cry all the time, yet you are enlightened.
Therefore knowledge has nothing to do with enlightenment. Even when we know nothing we can be enlightened. It's a funny thought, eh, that a professor of physics at Harvard or a yoga master of the Himalayas could be less enlightened than a 3 year old child?
This is why this thought is very important, it's saying to me, don't look for spiritual enlightenment in knowledge. This has a parallel to the parable in the bible when Adam and Eve chose the tree of knowledge, when they shouldn't have.
I am going to use this new thought as my sig, which ironically enough is about knowledge as well.
[edit on 12-9-2005 by Indigo_Child]
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
Once we are enlightened we break free of the wheel of Samsara. Knowledge has nothing to do with it. Once we break free of the opposites, learn to disidentify with egos and live in the NOW, we will become enlightened.
When one is enlightened one would not come back as a 3 year old child, that is unless you wanted to.
Originally posted by spacesounds
What do you mean by "break free of the opposites?"
Ah, that's what I was going to ask IC, if you would come back as a child? And if you did, wouldn't you retain higher access to your higher self, or whatever? That's where it gets complex to me. I wonder, what is being enlightened, during life, and then after death, and then into a next life...
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Here is an interesting and profound thought I've been having on spiritual enlightenment. It actually occured to me a few days ago, but I remembered that thought again whilst composing the previous post.
It goes a little like this "We are most spiritually enlightened when we know nothing" I received this thought when I was pondering over rebirth and the purpose of life. It is said that we reincarnate and have a succession of lives before we break free of the karmic wheel. It is unknown how many past lives we have lead, but it is suppose to a huge amount. Now suppose you spend all this life seeking spiritual enlightenment. You read all the spiritual scriptures and philosophies and build up a body of profound knowledge and you meditate and raise your vibrations. You become reveered as a Guru. Then you die and reincarnate, you are now a 3 year old child, you no longer have any of the knowledge of anything, heck you wet your dipers and cry all the time, yet you are enlightened.
Therefore knowledge has nothing to do with enlightenment. Even when we know nothing we can be enlightened. It's a funny thought, eh, that a professor of physics at Harvard or a yoga master of the Himalayas could be less enlightened than a 3 year old child?
This is why this thought is very important, it's saying to me, don't look for spiritual enlightenment in knowledge. This has a parallel to the parable in the bible when Adam and Eve chose the tree of knowledge, when they shouldn't have.
I am going to use this new thought as my sig, which ironically enough is about knowledge as well.
[edit on 12-9-2005 by Indigo_Child]
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
Being enlightened is to destroy the egos. Without the egos one breaks free from the conditioned negation of the moment. One no longer looks as the moment as a means to an end, the moment IS. One masters oneself in the HERE and NOW, not in 10 years, not tommorow, only NOW, there is no other time. If you think you need time to awaken, it will take you time to realize that time is not needed to do so.
Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
Originally posted by spacesounds
What do you mean by "break free of the opposites?"
Ah, that's what I was going to ask IC, if you would come back as a child? And if you did, wouldn't you retain higher access to your higher self, or whatever? That's where it gets complex to me. I wonder, what is being enlightened, during life, and then after death, and then into a next life...
To break free of the opposites is to go beyond duality. When one is free of duality one stops labelling and judging things with such relative words such as short, tall, evil, and good - there just IS.
When a master decides to reincarnate into a physical body once he/she is free from the wheel of Samsara he/she is born awakened. He/she does not live with a conditioned identification with the egos, and realizes the need to help others break free from their identification.
Being enlightened is to destroy the egos. Without the egos one breaks free from the conditioned negation of the moment. One no longer looks as the moment as a means to an end, the moment IS. One masters oneself in the HERE and NOW, not in 10 years, not tommorow, only NOW, there is no other time. If you think you need time to awaken, it will take you time to realize that time is not needed to do so.
[edit on 13/9/2005 by AkashicWanderer]
[edit on 13/9/2005 by AkashicWanderer]