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PtolemyII
reply to post by spartacus699
The disseminators of disinformation have arrived.
Dontcha hate when that happens..
I love a fellow dot gov is FOS person .
PtolemyII
reply to post by StealthyKat
I didn't even see your posts here SC. Sorry if you got the wrong idea.
I was referring to the usual subjects who go on all the threads about Gmos, fluoride, cancer cures.
There's a word for them, but if I post it, my replies will be deleted.
As I said, I have friends who fight me on this.
It's their choice, so I have to respect it, but I've watched quite a few of them die.
I am a 911 First Responder, as are my former Co workers.
I've lost count of how many have died of cancer since 911......
So I try to talk to them, and go on some of the diet I maintain.
I am cancer free so far, and we all breathed in the same stuff, the only difference is how we approach our maintenence.
One of these people was one of my best friends . we lost two more of our own two months ago ..... So this hits home for me , as it's never ending. So you can imagine my frustration when no one will even consider trying what I suggest.....edit on 10/15/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)
A healthy person can absolutely change their PH.
It's quite easy actually. This is disinformation.
AbleEndangered
Yeah I heard If you change your acidity levels in your body, cancer can't live.
Or certain forms of it.
There is something to this.
Was also just hearing about filter systems that separate your water into acid and alkaline water.edit on 14-10-2013 by AbleEndangered because: added the word: also
Lemon juice is acidic, and it makes you pH more alkaline.
And I never said eating.
The comment was healthy people cannot change their PH.
All you have to do is change your breathing, and you can change your pH.
It's how blood pH is controlled when someone is on a respirator, now isn't it.
As it's much much easier to resuscitate someone in cardiac arrest if their blood is acidic.
So we hyperventilate them to change the blood pH.
Yogis do it with controlled breathing too, so.....
You can change blood pH with ingestion of lemon juice, honey, Apple cider vinegar, and it does keep cancer at bay.
PtolemyII
reply to post by GoldenBrain71
There are two forms of acidosis and alkalosis. Respiratory and metabolic.
If you eat certain foods daily, yes you can change your pH to a degree.
And as I said, it can absolutely be done with breathing.
If it's done daily, it absolutely has an affect.
Have you ever seen a yogi with cancer?
They do controlled breathing , sometimes at a rate as low as 6 breaths permitted.
This would completely make your blood alkaline, and I never said eating.
I believe I said you can absolutely change your blood as a healthy person.
I never said by which mechanism, but eating does it to, just not for a prolonged period or as easily as using respiration.
This is why they brown bag people hyperventilating. They turn their blood alkalotic by doing this, and it causes muscle spasms.
So they make them breath into a bag so they inhale their own carbon dioxide.
I too have a medical degree, so I know just as much as your pal.edit on 10/16/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)edit on 10/16/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)
Mortality within 30 days of chemotherapy: a clinical governance benchmarking issue for oncology patients
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360753/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
A retrospective study of 267 patients, aged 60 years or over, with intermediate or high-grade Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma receiving CHOP chemotherapy was conducted. This demonstrated a chemotherapy-related death rate of 13%. Sixty-three per cent of these deaths occurred after the first cycle of CHOP. Infection accounted for 82% of these chemotherapy-related deaths. Again, performance status was shown to be an independent prognostic factor for treatment-related death (Gomez et al, 1998).
Pardon?
spartacus699
reply to post by woodwardjnr
Were discussing alternative medicine on a conspiracy theory forum. The whole forum is about "the alternative". If I want main stream I'll turn this off and turn on the 6 oclock news.
6 oclock news flash....
"in a recent study lead by 12 leading US medical schools researchers have proven that the only method to ever cure anything is what's available at a hospital. All other treatment for any health issue outside of what's prescribed by a board certified medical dr are nothing but quackery and conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo. If you don't do exactly what you're dr says you will die as our studies have definitively proven. You must immediately tune out all alternative media, and take more pills, white flour, white sugar, flouride water, and more 6oclock news. Now believe everything we say and go back to sleep, there's nothing to see here."
Discussing is absolutely fine.
Theorising is positively encouraged.
When said theories and hypotheses are countered and proven to be false then that should also be taken on board as part of said discussion, yes?
And when people suggest that this or that is a cure and suggests to sufferers that they eschew the tried and tested methods to pursue the unknown, well that gets my back up.