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noefirecrest
reply to post by Pardon?
>Do you know why alternative medicine is called "alternative medicine"?
>Because if it worked, it would just be called "medicine".
In a world without conspiracies, this should certainly be true.
> that simple fact remains, Rife is ineffective.
Any double blind study to back such a claim?
>I did a lot of work in the early eighties on radio-frequency ablation of cardiac tissue in both a medical physics and physiological perspective so I'm quite well versed with the effects of multi-frequency "electricity" and its effects on cellular activity.
>In absolutely no theoretical perspective can Rife work and it's no surprise that when these theories are translated to practical applications it is found that it doesn't work either.
Have you ever investigated PEMF devices? Just search "PEMF" in pubmed, you ll find dozens of scientific papers on it... So what is your explanation? Magnetic frequencies work but electric ones do not?
>As for your understanding of blood (a pipe?)
My bad, "transportation system" is probably a better term.
>your absurd conclusion from the bicarb/lactate statement, well, you really need to comprehend a little more about how the body works before making statements like that
Sure... teach me. I love understanding more and more things. How is it that baking soda should have no effect outside of the stomach, but still seem to work for athletes (in sport medicine)?
EasyPleaseMe
The statements from those with apparently good biological knowledge, stating that sodium bicarbonate cannot effect body chemistry, contradict the results of using it to improve endurance by neutralising lactic acid.
JISSN
This effect is well known in sporting circles and has been the subject of a number of scientific studies.
EasyPleaseMe
The statements from those with apparently good biological knowledge, stating that sodium bicarbonate cannot effect body chemistry, contradict the results of using it to improve endurance by neutralising lactic acid.
JISSN
This effect is well known in sporting circles and has been the subject of a number of scientific studies.
EasyPleaseMe
reply to post by GoldenBrain71
While I haven't seen any evidence for a change in blood pH, how else could bicarbonate affect the muscles if not via the bloodstream?
This is a serious question, not a dig
As you say the effect is probably short lived. The question is would a transient increase in blood bicarb levels affect cancerous tissue in any way?
In the increased performance study the blood pH isn't necessarily changed but rather kept from dropping as fast as normal. The blood is effected some how and since I'm not a chemist I don't really understand how...
GoldenBrain71
Trust me folks when I say that I am NOT a "disinformation agent." I love a good conspiracy theory even though most are total bunk, and respect everybody's opinion, but I am getting tired of reading really bad science on these forums. Giving people the idea that it's okay to muck around with the bodies pH is at best irresponsible and at worst REALLY dangerous. Doing this can cause renal failure and possibly death. It is not likely that you could ever reach the necessary pH level of 8.1 and above in order to kill cancer cells. You will most likely die before you reach this level of pH.
I haven't posted much since joining ATS, but with what I'm reading lately I just can't be silent anymore. So, please don't take it personally if you're one of those that I'm debating. I'm not targeting anybody personally, but rather the misinformation being regurgitated in some of these threads.
Peace to all!!!
Alkalinity is more about the ability to buffer acidity whereas basicity is the measured value on the ph (acid-base) scale.
DenyObfuscation
reply to post by GoldenBrain71
In the increased performance study the blood pH isn't necessarily changed but rather kept from dropping as fast as normal. The blood is effected some how and since I'm not a chemist I don't really understand how...
I wonder if this has to do with the difference between alkalinity and basicity. Alkalinity is more about the ability to buffer acidity whereas basicity is the measured value on the ph (acid-base) scale.
IIRC, baking soda is great for raising total alkalinity in a pool WITHOUT greatly affecting ph.
I just found out that my cancer is gone....100 percent gone.
Alkalinity is a measure of the capacity of water or any solution to neutralize or “buffer” acids. This measure of acid-neutralizing capacity is important in figuring out how “buffered” the water is against sudden changes in pH.
Alkalinity should not be confused with pH. pH is a measure of the hydrogen ion (H+) concentration, and the pH scale shows the intensity of the acidic or basic character of a solution at a given temperature. The reason alkalinity is sometime confused with pH is because the term alkaline is used to describe pH conditions greater than 7 (basic).
The most important compounds in water that determine alkalinity include the carbonate (CO32-) and bicarbonate (HCO3-) ions. Carbonate ions are able to react with and neutralize 2 hydrogen ions (H+) and the bicarbonate ions are able to neutralize H+ or hydroxide ions (OH-) present in water. The ability to resist changes in pH by neutralizing acids or bases is called buffering.
What am I missing here?
GoldenBrain71
reply to post by StealthyKat
I just found out that my cancer is gone....100 percent gone.
That's really awesome StealthyKat!
Peace and love to you and yours!edit on 18-10-2013 by GoldenBrain71 because: (no reason given)
Phage
reply to post by DenyObfuscation
What am I missing here?
Not a thing.
But I missed the context of what you were talking about and confused, as pointed out in your external quote, "alkalinity" with "alkaline".
I blame being very happy about the good news from StealthyKat preventing me from paying proper attention.