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Didn't his momma ever tell him not to poke the hornet's nest?
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by masqua
This "economic" war has been going on for a while. Redneck is on the right track.
China is a predatory Nation, with predatory trade practices.
If you get the time, listen to this. Its not a video per say, just the show.
Its a eye opener.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by seagull
China is an enigma buried deep inside a riddle, wrapped in a puzzle.
Israel has some legitimate concerns: their small size means a single nuke would wipe them out of existence
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by Propulsion
But again, WHAT will they do to make it happen?
Source: nothing, I just made this up.
...second and seven for the Cowboys as they continue to keep the Rams off balance in this one-score game. Kyle Orton at quarterback, the kid from Purdue, takes the snap... he's back, looking for a target... he's got a man open downfielld... what a bullet! Right on target, this is going to change the tone of the game... and it's caught! and dropped... what?.... The Cowboy receiver just collapsed in mid-catch. Referees are calling for a time out while they can check on... wait, a referee just fell over in his tracks! Now two more Cowboys uniforms are lying on the field, four, no, five Rams next to them. It looks like the whole field is collapsing in a wave. The fans are starting to collapse as well, and now the police are trying to maintain order... people are stampeding out of the stands, some onto the field, most out of the back... there's a pile of bodies lying at the edge of the stands now, some are literally jumping... jumping out... onto... uh... something is.. wrong... help....
The next day, it is announced that only twenty three people caught in the stadium survived, and all of them are still in a coma and in serious condition. The Dallas Cowboys were not among them, and neither were the Rams; no players survived. The culprit was Sarin gas, the same chemical weapon used in Syria by Assad. President Obama calls on Congress to reconsider their earlier refusal to take action against Assad, and now besieged by calls, emails, and texts from angry constituents hungry for revenge, they approive a wide range of actions against Syria.
Now I ask you: is that so far-fetched, knowing what we know?
I've been thinking about location... the last time an attack happened in the heartland (OK City), there was outrage but not a lot of support for the government to do something about it. The Trade Towers had the exact desired effect. With the current demographics and political leanings, perhaps somewhere in Texas? Dallas, Houston, Austin?
When Saddam was our friend
Saddam Hussein enjoyed U.S. support in his long war with Iran in the 1980s — even after Iraq repeatedly used chemical weapons. Iraq used mustard gas against the Iranians in 1983, with no objection from the Reagan administration. In 1987, Foreign Policy magazine reported last week, the U.S. gave Saddam intelligence that an Iranian invasion was imminent at a hole in Iraq's defenses. "An Iranian victory is unacceptable," President Reagan wrote on an intelligence report. In response to the U.S. warning, Saddam repeatedly attacked Iranian forces with sarin, killing more than 20,000 and injuring thousands more. He later used sarin to kill more than 5,000 Kurds to put down an uprising in northern Iraq. Retired Air Force Col. Rick Francona, who was military attaché in Baghdad during the 1988 attacks, told Foreign Policy that the U.S. chose to ignore Saddam's use of chemical weapons because Iraq was seen as the lesser of two evils. "The Iraqis never told us that they intended to use nerve gas," Francona said. "They didn't have to. We already knew."
McDonough says attack on Assad regime would send message to Iran
Sun Sep 8, 2013 9:14 AM EDT
By Tom Curry, National Affairs Writer, NBC News
White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough said Sunday that an impending U.S. attack on Syria would send a message to Iranian leaders that they should not feel free to develop nuclear weapons.
McDonough said on NBC’s Meet the Press that “to communicate with them we have to be very clear, very forthright. This is an opportunity to be both with the Iranians....”
He said, “nobody is rebutting the intelligence; nobody doubts the intelligence” that is the basis for President Barack Obama pinning the blame for an August 21 chemical weapons attack in Syria on President Bashar Assad's regime which is fighting to suppress a rebellion that began in 2011.
White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough visits Meet the Press to discuss recently released footage of a chemical assault on the Syrian people.
McDonough noted that “our troops have not been subject to chemical weapons attacks since World War I” and argued that “we have to make sure that for the sake of our guys – our men and women on the front lines – that we reinforce this prohibition against using chemical weapons.”
If Assad is not deterred, he will put chemical weapons on the front lines in his battle against the Syrian rebels and that would mean “a greater risk of them being proliferated” and perhaps falling into terrorists’ hands, McDonough argued.
He added that “the momentum on the battle field will be changed by a targeted, limited effort” but he said ultimately “there’s not a military resolution” to the civil war in Syria, only a “political, diplomatic resolution.”
McDonough’s appearance on Meet the Press and other Sunday talk shows was one part of an intense public offensive headed by Obama himself, including the president doing interviews Monday with six television networks and culminating in his speech to the nation Tuesday night.
McDonough said Obama wants Congress to be “a full partner” in military action against Assad’s regime.
Obama faces one of the crucial weeks of his presidency with the Senate headed for a vote as early as Wednesday to end debate on a measure authorizing an attack on Syria; the measure’s supporters need 60 votes to move it ahead to final passage.
Reaction from members of Congress has ranged from endorsing an attack to wariness to fervent opposition.
The division on the issue hasn’t followed party lines.
Posted above are just snips fro m the full articles , they are not in full.
Arab League agrees with Kerry on Assad chemical weapons use – but not military action
NBC News' Andrea Mitchell updates David Gregory with the latest dispatch on John Kerry's speech as she travels with the secretary of state.
By Andrea Mitchell, Catherine Chomiak and Alastair Jamieson, NBC News
PARIS — Arab League nations agreed Sunday that Syrian President Bashar Assad had used chemical weapons and that it crossed an internationally recognized red line, but none have publicly endorsed the U.S. proposal for punitive air strikes against the Assad regime.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Saudi Arabia has backed airstrikes, but the Saudis have stopped short of saying that publicly.
Kerry told reporters in Paris that all members of the regional bloc had indicated that they would add their names to a G-20 statement — already signed by 12 countries — that calls for a strong international response to the Aug. 21 poison gas attack near Damascus, but not military action.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by 727Sky
One big dynamic should it come to war with China is the geography between China and Iran. In order to access the Persian Gulf, or even the Gulf of Oman, Chinese ships have to navigate the South Pacific. That's a seriously rough journey should Australia and New Zealand ally with the US (as I believe they would). It is all but impossible to even conceive of a pipeline across the Himalayas.
They have one potential save in that area, though, and that would be a pipeline through Myanmar (formerly Burma). That country is seriously unstable right now, but it would be a prime location for a pipeline from an oil ort directly into the heart of China without any problems with sailing between it and Iranian ports.
I look for something to happen in Myanmar soon as well. It may already have and we just don't know about it; that's not an area which is easy to get info out of.
Myanmar's domestic private companies are seeking joint operation with foreign counterparts in oil and gas exploration and production on mutually beneficial basis, local media reported Friday.
According to official figures, there are 53 onshore and 48 offshore blocks being operated with foreign investment. Meanwhile, more and more foreign investors including those from the United States, Britain, India and Australia are tendering for engagement in oil and gas exploration and production in Myanmar's offshore areas. It is expected that tender winners will be announced in November after feasibility studies complete. According to the state-run Myanmar Oil and Gas Enterprise, about 300 new test wells have been set for drilling in the next five years for oil and gas exploration. Meanwhile, natural gas from Myanmar's Shwe Field started delivery to China as of July 28 this year after gas pipeline was laid.
Foreign oil companies, engaged in oil and gas exploration and production in Myanmar, comprise Australia, Britain, Canada, China, Indonesia, India, South Korea, Malaysia, Russia, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by GenerationGap
In the end, all we have on that single point about Nazi sympathies is speculation, and where speculation is concerned, yours is as good as mine.
History of Iran and the Nazis