Everything you believe about the history of the world is False

reply to post by auraelium


You're right about the actual flying machines they corresponded to, but you might want to look again into the battery thing.Hint: Egypt. Or intricate timekeeping devices. Some big, some incredibly small.

Originally posted by CircleOfDust
reply to post by auraelium

 

You're right about the actual flying machines they corresponded to, but you might want to look again into the battery thing.Hint: Egypt. Or intricate timekeeping devices. Some big, some incredibly small.

No batteries or anything similar have been found in Egypt. If you are referring to the Baghdad batteries as they are called it has been debunked many times. The Jars found in Baghdad are papyrus scroll holders and date from about 250 AD. Tests carried out found pottery jars with copper holders inside to hold the scrolls upright, no evidence of any liquids at all were found inside let alone liquids that have electromagnetic properties.

reply to post by auraelium


Okay but I still think you've missed something that I've said to you in my first reply to you. Gold, Silver, Bronze and Iron are English names we have put on the ages in the past, they are not necessarily descriptive of the metals primarily used during these times.

reply to post by CircleOfDust


So, if we're leaving the Iron Age, what age are we entering? The Digital Age? That can't be right.

reply to post by windword


Ah that's the nasty question. Because it has a real nasty answer.

Do you really want to know? If you're the least hesitant, don't read the next line.

It's the end of the great cycle, where God hits the reset button on Earth. Eventually the golden age will return its beginning cycle, once the earth recovers from the devastation.

Originally posted by CircleOfDust
reply to post by auraelium

 

Okay but I still think you've missed something that I've said to you in my first reply to you. Gold, Silver, Bronze and Iron are English names we have put on the ages in the past, they are not necessarily descriptive of the metals primarily used during these times.

That makes no sense, No one has ever named any past age in human history a "Gold Age" or a "Silver Age" in fact i never heard of those terms before i read your post.

reply to post by auraelium


That's because all your assumptions that you've started assuming since entering into this world have kept you from the truth. What you've been taught etc.

Originally posted by CircleOfDust
reply to post by windword

 

Ah that's the nasty question. Because it has a real nasty answer.

Do you really want to know? If you're the least hesitant, don't read the next line.

It's the end of the great cycle, where God hits the reset button on Earth. Eventually the golden age will return its beginning cycle, once the earth recovers from the devastation.

Wheres your evidence for this? show me. without evidence all what you are saying is just opinion, and opinions are like arse-holes, everyone has one. In science we deal in evidence.

Originally posted by CircleOfDust
reply to post by auraelium

 

That's because all your assumptions that you've started assuming since entering into this world have kept you from the truth. What you've been taught etc.

Show me some evidence to back up your assumptions............You have presented no evidence what so ever ..nothing....zero. You are just making it up as you go along, thats not science.Thats imagination,

reply to post by auraelium


Here's some good info on your Religion of today called Science. From Michael Chrichton's book Next.

from Michael Chrichton's book Next:

SCIENTISTS SEE A BAN ON RESEARCH
The current American administration has said that embryonic stem cells can be taken from existing research lines, but not from new embryos. Scientists regard existing lines as inadequate, and thus view the ruling a de facto ban on research. That‘s why they are going to private centers to carry out their research, without federal grants.
But in the end, the real problem isn‘t simply a lack of stem cells. It‘s the fact that in order to produce therapeutic effects, scientists need each person to have his or her own pluripotent stem cells. This would allow us to regrow an organ, or to repair damage from injury or disease, or to undo paralysis. This represents the great dream. No one is able to perform these therapeutic miracles now. No one even has an inkling how it might be done. But it requires the cells.
Now, for newborns, you can collect umbilical cord blood and freeze it, and people are doing that with their newborns. But what about adults? Where will we get pluripotent stem cells?
That‘s the big question.

TOWARD THE THERAPEUTIC DREAM
All we adults have left is adult stem cells, which can make only one kind of tissue. But what if there were a way to convert adult stem cells back into embryonic stem cells? Such a procedure would enable every adult to have a ready source of his or her own embryonic stem cells. That would make the therapeutic dream possible.
Well, it turns out that you can reverse adult stem cells, but only if you insert them into an egg. Something within the egg unwinds the differentiation and converts the adult stem cell back into an embryonic stem cell. This is good news, but it is vastly more difficult to do with human cells. And if the method could be made to work in human beings, it would require an enormous supply of human egg cells. That makes the procedure controversial again.
So scientists are looking for other ways to make adult cells pluripotent. It is a worldwide effort. A researcher in Shanghai has been injecting human stem cells into chicken eggs, with mixed results—while others cluck in disapproval. It‘s not clear now whether such procedures will work.
It‘s equally unclear whether the stem cell dream—transplants without rejection, spinal cord injuries repaired, and so on—will come true. Advocates have made dishonest claims, and media speculation has been fantastical for years. People with serious illnesses have been led to believe a cure is just around the corner. Sadly, this is not true. Working therapeutic approaches lie many years in the future, perhaps decades. Many thoughtful scientists have said, in private, that we won‘t know whether stem cell therapy will work until 2050. They point out that it took forty years from the time Watson and Crick decoded the gene until human gene therapy began.

A SCANDAL SHOCKS THE WORLD
It was in the context of feverish hope and hype that Korean biochemist Hwang Woo-Suk announced in 2004 that he had successfully created a human embryonic stem cell from an adult cell by somatic nuclear transfer—injection into a human egg. Hwang was a famous workaholic, spending eighteen hours a day, seven days a week, in the lab. Hwang‘s exciting report was published in March 2005 inScience magazine. Researchers from around the world flocked to Korea. Human stem cell treatment seemed suddenly on the verge of reality. Hwang was a hero in Korea, and appointed to head a new World Stem Cell Hub, financed by the Korean government.
But in November 2005, an American collaborator in Pittsburgh announced that he was ending his association with Hwang. And then one of Hwang‘s co-workers revealed that Hwang had obtained eggs illegally, from women who worked in his lab.
By December 2005, Seoul National University announced that Hwang‘s cell lines were a fabrication, as were his papers in Science. Science retracted the papers. Hwang now faces criminal charges. There the matter stands.

PERILS OF MEDIA HYPE
What lessons can be drawn from this?; asked Professor McKeown. ;First, in a media-saturated world, persistent hype lends unwarranted credulity to the wildest claims. For years the media have touted stem cell research as the coming miracle. So when somebody announced that the miracle had arrived, he was believed. Does that imply there is a danger in media hype? You bet. Because not only does it raise cruel hopes among the ill, it affects scientists, too. They start to believe the miracle is around the corner—even though they should know better.
What can we do about media hype? It would stop in a week, if scientific institutions wanted that. They don‘t. They love the hype. They know it brings grants. So that won‘t change. Yale, Stanford, and Johns Hopkins promote hype just as much as Exxon or Ford. So do individual researchers at those institutions. And increasingly, researchers and universities are all commercially motivated, just like corporations. So whenever you hear a scientist claim that his statements have been exaggerated, or taken out of context, just ask him if he has written a letter of protest to the editor. Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, he hasn‘t.
Next lesson: Peer review. All of Hwang‘s papers in Science were peer-reviewed. If we ever needed evidence that peer review is an empty ritual, this episode provides it. Hwang made extraordinary claims. He did not provide extraordinary evidence. Many studies have shown that peer review does not improve the quality of scientific papers. Scientists themselves know it doesn‘t work. Yet the public still regards it as a sign of quality, and says, This paper was peer-reviewed,‘ or ;This paper was not peer-reviewed,‘ as if that meant something. It doesn‘t.
Next, the journals themselves. Where was the firm hand of the editor of Science ? Remember that the journal Science is a big enterprise—115 people work on that magazine. Yet gross fraud, including photographs altered with Adobe Photoshop, were not detected. And Photoshop is widely known as a major tool of scientific fraud. Yet the magazine had no way to detect it.
Not thatScience is unique in being fooled. Fraudulent research has been published in theNew ABC
England Journal of Medicine, where authors withheld critical information about Vioxx heart attacks; in theLancet, where a report about drugs and oral cancer was entirely fabricated—in that one, 250 people in the patient database had the same birth date! That might have been a clue. Medical fraud is more than a scandal, it‘s a public health threat. Yet it continues.

THE COST OF FRAUD
The cost of such fraud is enormous,; McKeown said, estimated at thirty billion dollars annually, probably three times that. Fraud in science is not rare, and it‘s not limited to fringe players. The most respected researchers and institutions have been caught with faked data. Even Francis Collins, the head of NIH‘s Human Genome Project, was listed as co-author on five faked papers that had to be withdrawn.
;The ultimate lesson is that science isn‘t special—at least not anymore. Maybe back when Einstein talked to Niels Bohr, and there were only a few dozen important workers in every field. But there are now three million researchers in America. It‘s no longer a calling, it‘s a career. Science is as corruptible a human activity as any other. Its practitioners aren‘t saints, they‘re human beings, and they do what human beings do—lie, cheat, steal from one another, sue, hide data, fake data, overstate their own importance, and denigrate opposing views unfairly. That‘s human nature. It isn‘t going to change.

reply to post by CircleOfDust


So you are quoting exerts from a book written by a science fiction writer to back up your theory?, exerts which as it happens have nothing to do with with the thread topic?

reply to post by auraelium


So you showed you didn't read it. I just finished reading it again, and you had already replied. And I read fast. Sure you're not looking at the issue objectively, and not just worried about how you're going to respond?

Originally posted by CircleOfDust
reply to post by auraelium

 

So you showed you didn't read it. I just finished reading it again, and you had already replied. And I read fast. Sure you're not looking at the issue objectively, and not just worried about how you're going to respond?

I dont know what your point is, i asked you for evidence, any evidence what so ever to back up your theory. You quote some exerts from a book thats nothing to do with the subject of discussion.

I asked you for evidence to back up your theory where is it?

reply to post by auraelium
true but then add an other 265,000 years to the known dates,[period of man] then your closer to the real time of man, but then this time period of man might be lost, or deep inside the Himalayas. no i am not joking about this.

Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by auraelium

 

true but then add an other 265,000 years to the known dates,[period of man] then your closer to the real time of man, but then this time period of man might be lost, or deep inside the Himalayas. no i am not joking about this.

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edit on 20-7-2013 by bekod because: line edit, word Correction

Its not lost we have stone artifacts and tools dating from this time, Man was a stone age hunter gatherer.thats what the evidence points us to, anything else is just conjecture.

reply to post by auraelium


That is not even what he meant...Congratulations in debasing your own opinions.....The talk of a "Golden Age" is metaphorical not literal....Tone it down a bit and think outside the box.

Your thread title is pure truth....

History is a VERY effective form of mind control.

How sad that so few here on ATS recognize that fact.

"The falsification of history has done more to impede human development than any one thing known to mankind" - Rousseau

“the biggest cover-up in the history of mankind is the history of mankind itself”

“There are two histories: official history, lying, and then secret history, where you find the real causes of events.” ~ Honoré de Balzac

"The model of human prehistory built-up by scholars over the past two centuries is sadly and completely wrong, and a deliberate tool of disinformation and mind control. ...they demonstrate a systematic destruction of proofs that show another reality than that the official story. Falsifications and even destruction of such proofs has been common for more than two hundred years." LINK

"Throughout recorded history, the Illuminati has successfully withheld from humankind major aspects of history and science in order to subjugate the masses"

By manipulating the souls evolving on earth, the Illuminati have deliberately suppressed the spiritual facts of life, not to mention liberating technologies, which could bring plenitude to all.

Secrets of Suppressed Science and History

Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by auraelium

 

That is not even what he meant...Congratulations in debasing your own opinions.....The talk of a "Golden Age" is metaphorical not literal....Tone it down a bit and think outside the box.

Congratulations for not reading the thread yourself..............

It is what he meant, read the thread, he stated there was a Gold age, Silver age, Bronze age and Iron Age.

You monkey asses don't even know who you talking to. I suggest you STUDY his webpaage and then post back. Circle write me @ tengu-jujutsu at usjujitsu dot zzn dot com

reply to post by auraelium
so your admitting man is 575,000 to 1. 2 millions years old and have proof of this!!!!! congrats on letting the cat out of the bag, now tell the rest of the so called experts that and show them that yes man kind is older than once thought. would you be willing to go public with this?