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Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Originally posted by borntowatch
Yeah hence Gods and the bibles stupid teaching
Love God and love each other.
How dumb is that, sheesh stupid Christians and their stupid love message
I did not suggest the teaching of the Bible was stupid. Quite the contrary. I said it guides or leads us. I said that the founder, his son and his selected shepards were unusally smart.
There is nothing wrong with the message to love one another. But to love "God", whom nobody has ever met (John 1:18 "No man has seen God at any time") is irrational. You "love" some imaginary figure just because somebody told you that "He" created the universe?
Do you love Santa Claus also?
Originally posted by stirling
Does the OP understand the Council of Nicea?
When Constantine had the basic christian bible created?
Anyone remember when? 1300s??
No God in his right mind could find redeemable qualities in any abundance....they are the exception not the rule....
Originally posted by booyakasha
Santos Bonacci does one of the best jobs explaining it.
Originally posted by borntowatch
There is nothing wrong with the message to love one another. But to love "God", whom nobody has ever met (John 1:18 "No man has seen God at any time") is irrational. You "love" some imaginary figure just because somebody told you that "He" created the universe?
Do you love Santa Claus also?
Not much thought goes in to your posts.
Why should any one love anyone, the whole world is based on a me first attitude, why forgive, care.
Anyway your understanding of John 1 is flat out wrong and possibly manipulated to justify your argument, that or you know nothing of Christianity
What if I told you Jesus came to abolish religion
What if I told you voting republican really wasn’t his mission
What if I told you republican doesn’t automatically mean Christian
And just because you call some people blind
Doesn’t automatically give you vision
"Bethke’s opening line: “Jesus came to abolish religion.” Bethke sees religion as a man made attempt to earn God’s favor. Religion equals self-righteousness, moral preening, and hypocrisy. Religion is all law and no gospel. If that’s religion, then Jesus is certainly against it."
Originally posted by Murgatroid
God is the author of the Bible.
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Nice video. We agree about religion, although I go to church for the spiritual aspect.
"God is the author of the Bible" is factually untrue.
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
But tell me this: You are making claims about God and Jesus which are completely unsubstantiated. Do you have any support for them?
Maybe we should start a thread on how the aliens are looking for humans that obedient enough to believe in religion in order to be further processed!
Cheers, AQ. Not everybody is average. Just think of Leonardo Da Vinci, or Einstein. How do secret societies relate to this topic? I think you need to explain your point in more detail. "Why would someone who didn't believe in eternity even bother worrying about anyone other than their own family?" Are you implying that Alexander the Great, Caesar, even Hitler believed in "eternity"? How did you come to that conclusion?
AQ, Jesus did. Why do we still learn about Plato 2500 years after he died? Does that not make him amazingly smart? Just imagine the impact he must have had during his life-time. The student of his student, Alexander, built a giant empire while in his 20's.
Originally posted by AQuestion
None of the people you mentioned, as bright or powerful as they were, managed to influence the world to the degree you outlined in your OP. It is ideas that shape the world, people are transient. I reject the idea that the bible was created so that a few people could control the world, it wasn't. The Old Testament was written for a small group of people over an extended period of time, it was not just a religious book, it was a history of a whole society.
AQ, Jesus did. Why do we still learn about Plato 2500 years after he died? Does that not make him amazingly smart? Just imagine the impact he must have had during his life-time. The student of his student, Alexander, built a giant empire while in his 20's.
Originally posted by 2012king
calm down guys, its just a story
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Originally posted by 2012king
calm down guys, its just a story
yes, but one with meaning, that's what always gets them riled up in their sycophantic desire to please TPTB.
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
Originally posted by borntowatch
There is nothing wrong with the message to love one another. But to love "God", whom nobody has ever met (John 1:18 "No man has seen God at any time") is irrational. You "love" some imaginary figure just because somebody told you that "He" created the universe?
Do you love Santa Claus also?
Not much thought goes in to your posts.
Why should any one love anyone, the whole world is based on a me first attitude, why forgive, care.
Anyway your understanding of John 1 is flat out wrong and possibly manipulated to justify your argument, that or you know nothing of Christianity
Distortion, ignorance, or inability to read? Which one is it?
I said "There is nothing wrong with the message to love one another".
I quoted what John said - maybe you WISH it would say something else.
It seems that you know nothing of Christianity - at least you don't show any.
Next time read my post, and the Bible.
Since you say yourself that 'Jesus told us to be good slaves' then why was the Bible written, if not to tell us to be good slaves?
Originally posted by AQuestion
The bible was not created by the rulers to enslave people, they were already enslaved and Jesus told us to be good slaves because that is how the world is.
Originally posted by 2012king
i guess the meaning depends on what you want it to mean. to me its just a story, but to other people, they look too far into it. its the same with all religion really, in my opinion they should all be banned.... nothing but trouble
You proved my point, again. They saw Jesus, not God, despite what Jesus SAID, that does not make it so.
Originally posted by borntowatch
Distortion, ignorance, or inability to read? Which one is it?
I said "There is nothing wrong with the message to love one another".
I quoted what John said - maybe you WISH it would say something else.
It seems that you know nothing of Christianity - at least you don't show any.
Next time read my post, and the Bible.
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
I have read the bible, you pick and choose verse to justify your position