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Originally posted by FlyersFan
No .. his ADULT kids weren't set up.
They pulled this off on their own.
They were ID'd by the fella that got his legs blown off.
The bomber looked right in his eyes as he placed the bomb at his feet.
That's freak'n COLD ...
Bloomberg News
Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.
Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. A picture of him in a wheelchair, bloodied and ashen, was broadcast around the world as he was rushed to Boston Medical Center. He lost both legs below the knee.
Originally posted by AboveBoard
It is absolutely horrible to think that people could do something like the Boston bombing to begin with. Normal seeming people who went to school, had friends, were part of the community.
I guess I have a really hard time thinking this is a "set up" of the individuals, as 1) they robbed the 7/11 store, 2) they stole the SUV, 3) they fired on policemen, killing one and injuring another, 4) they hurled explosives at the officers, 5) the brother had on a 'suicide vest' 6) they were filmed at the Marathon and seen putting the backpack down by one of the victims who has ID'd them, 7) they lied to their father about not being at the event at all.
If they were innocent and "set up," they would not have explosives and heavy arms on them (the one who escaped is said to be carrying an AR-15, not that carrying it makes him guilty, but if he were innocent it would be beyond stupid to shoot at officers/kill an officer with said gun and go on the run with it...). If they were innocent, why did they rob the 7/11? Why did they steal the SUV? If they were innocent, why did they hurl homemade explosives at the police? Why have a 'suicide vest' on your person if you are innocent - I mean, seriously, that and the other explosives are not things you can whip up out of nowhere!
It is more plausible that they were sucked into someone's agenda, either on their own via online or as part of a group, in the past year. In a "closed-circut Group Think" situation, or 'pack mentality' it is easy to do things one would never otherwise morally consider.
The steps to Evil are small, incremental, and often unnoticed. Were the Service men and women who tortured and abused prisoners in Iraq simply Evil to begin with? Or did they get into it slowly, and build on each other's energy and actions until horror after horror happened at their hands. They were young. They were not Muslim. They were capable of unspeakable things in an environment that opened the way and encouraged this in them. They lost their moral compass. Perhaps they thought they were doing something good, even. Evil is a human thing - we choose it. It does not belong to a specific group of people.
So, I guess I don't see a set up here. I could be wrong, of course, but it just doesn't make sense to me personally to say they were not the ones to plant the bombs.
My heart is sick over this whole event. There is a sense of unreality to it, but honestly this sort of thing plays out around the world over and over again. I am so sad for all of us.
peace to you,
AB
Originally posted by penninja
Sucked in? Really? educated, well liked, Competitive, one kid was a boxing champ, strong family ties
That's not the profile of anyone that gets "sucked in" over you tube vids....
If they were American that's the profile of a future CIA agent
But they are NOT... they are Russian
This just is not... the profile of a Jihadi. Again ONE kid evading everything we throw out there all day? You know we have Satellites watching that can read the plates on a car, if we don't have him yet he's moving with trained measure...
No... these kids ring of the kind of precision only the Russian train, they are the BEST IN THE WORLD and planting believable agents over long periods of time....
Hell...the current TV show "The Americans" shows it in perfect clarity
The parents are shocked for a reason... these are hero's of the motherland not Jihad's... we need an excuse to clamp down because there is viable threat of a real Nuclear terrorist attack now... They have to handle the Chechen Black market before it happens to them...
No Jihadi is pulling this off all day... This kid is GOOD
Originally posted by FlyersFan
No .. his ADULT kids weren't set up.
They pulled this off on their own.
They were ID'd by the fella that got his legs blown off.
The bomber looked right in his eyes as he placed the bomb at his feet.
That's freak'n COLD ...
Bloomberg News
Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.
Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. A picture of him in a wheelchair, bloodied and ashen, was broadcast around the world as he was rushed to Boston Medical Center. He lost both legs below the knee.
Originally posted by Mykah
Hello ATS community.
This is the stuff they don't want us to see. Please share this information with everyone you know.
(Warning, some of these pictures are gruesome at first glance. I assure you though that the blood and gore is all fake, I can prove it simply by informed medical observation.)
I've studied and graduated EMT-B certification with the state of Oregon. I've been on calls with heavy arterial bleeds, internal bleeding, fatalities, doa's. I am speaking from direct personal experience with severe trauma.
Here is a telling photograph of the amputee actor. I encourage readers to view the photo side by side with my analysis.
If you loose both your legs from explosive trauma half your blood is gone in one minute via the femoral arteries, youre dead after two. Bleeding out is worse with blunt force trauma (like shrapnel) because flesh is torn rather than cut, exposing more arterial and vascular tissue. The human body holds 5 to 6 LITERS of blood. If that really happened you would see blood EVERYWHERE, the guy would be drenched in it. You would also see what's called arterial spurtting from the injury. Most likely he would vomit after turning ghost white from shock, then turning delirious or passing out. As for the "tourniquet"...
Its not even tied off, its suspended via gravity, which would literally do nothing to an arterial sever. There's no pressure applied. There's no knott with a turn stick for leverage. You can clearly see a gap in the nonexistent wrap job on his left inner thigh (left anterior proximal for you experts) His hands have no blood on them. There's no blood on the ground. The color in his hands and lips shows good circulation.
This is an actor. This is staged. How did they pull it off though? I can show you.
Here in frame six on the left we see the the man with a hood setting up the fake leg wound prosthetics. His attention and hands are right there. The woman is acting as a shield covering what's happening.
Frame 6
Here in frame eight the prosthetics are in place. Amidst all this chaos seconds after the explosion the hooded man takes the time to put on his sunglasses which is a signal.
Frame 8
Here in frame nine with sunglasses now on the hooded man and the woman make eye contact, signal received.
Frame 9
In frame eleven after recieving the go signal the woman makes an open hand gesture the direction both of them are looking, signaling the staged injuries are in place for cameras. The prone amputee raises his left prosthetic injury into the air over the woman's shoulder. No blood is present. The bone is dry, no blood on his leg above the knee, no blood on the woman, no arterial spurt, nothing.
Frame 11
Here in frame fourteen the woman turns her head right but is still holding up that open palm signal with her left hand. The hooded man again busies himself pouring fake blood on the pavement behind the woman. The amputee has both fake injuries in the air now. There is still no blood on his legs, his skin above the injury is clean and dry.
Frame 14
Frame twenty, the fake blood and prosthetics are in place. The amputee gives an open hand gesture along with the woman to bring the cameras in. We're now twenty frames in and still not a drop of fresh blood from a double leg amputation. His legs are dry, the woman is dry and unscathed. Both are making the same hand gesture.
Frame 20
These are actors. This is staged. It was flash powder. There was no crock pot nail bomb. There are no bombers, only patsy. If your looking for a gunman look at the Army in the streets of Boston. Share this knowledge with everyone.edit on 19-4-2013 by Mykah because: formatting
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Bloomberg News
Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.
Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. A picture of him in a wheelchair, bloodied and ashen, was broadcast around the world as he was rushed to Boston Medical Center. He lost both legs below the knee.
Originally posted by neo96
Only boogieman bigger than a muslim one?
Is a CIA one.
Those sons were not set up.