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Originally posted by ArMaP
Originally posted by adjensen
Why is one of those okay, and the other is not? Out of sight, out of mind?
I guess it depends on the definition of "person". Apparently, in the US, the moment you are born you are considered a person, so being killed after being born is a homicide, before is something else.
Originally posted by Circumstance
Oh, good grief...there is no conspiracy/blackout from the media. I heard about this case from the MSM in print and on t.v. over a year ago! Yeah, that's right over a year ago. There was not tons of coverage back then but that's par for the course; it is not, however, some conspiracy.edit on 13-4-2013 by Circumstance because: (no reason given)
Pennsylvania's health department stopped routine inspections of abortion facilities in the state after Tom Ridge, a pro-choice Republican, became governor in 1995. Health department lawyers "changed their legal opinions and advice to suit the policy preferences of different governors," health department official Janet Staloski said in grand jury testimony. In this case, she said the state didn't want to be "putting a barrier up to women" who wanted abortions. In 1999, high-level Pennsylvania officials met to consider starting up regular inspections again but decided not to, state lawyer Kenneth Brody testified, according to the grand jury report. He told the grand jury that officials were concerns that abortion clinics wouldn't meet inspection standards and then there "would be less abortion facilities." Read more: www.businessinsider.com...
Catering to women who were so pregnant they couldn't get abortions anywhere else, Gosnell's clinic became a "huge moneymaker" by charging $3,000 for a late-term abortions, according to a scathing, 281-page grand jury report that lays out the allegations against him. The grand jury estimated Gosnell took in at least $1.8 million a year, mostly in cash, using figures provided by Women's Medical Society staff. Read more: www.businessinsider.com...
Ashley was a full-time high school student when she worked for Gosnell but sometimes worked at his clinic for as many as 50 hours a week, according to the report. As part of his standard procedure, Gosnell allegedly had women deliver live babies in his absence. He came back to kill the "squirming" infants, according to the grand jury report. His teenage assistant was often in charge of taking care of those women when they were in labor, according to the grand jury report. Ashley told the grand jury that she sent the women to deliver their babies in toilets and phoned Gosnell to say he was needed at the clinic. The high school student was also charged with giving doses of heavy-duty pain meds, according to the grand jury report. "In truth, Ashley often worked until 2 a.m. and performed the duties of a registered nurse or a doctor," the grand jury report read. "When asked who was in charge of the clinic before Gosnell arrived, Ashley testified: 'Me.'" Read more: www.businessinsider.com...
Originally posted by bjarneorn
reply to post by jibeho
Excuse me for saying this ...
But to me, this sounds like a crime committed by the mothers, not the doctor. According to what I've heard, women scream about "they deciding over their own body". And this is what they want ...
To me, the women that sought these procedures should be on trial ...
Originally posted by ArMaP
Yes, but what the doctor is supposed to do is to kill the unborn baby, then remove it from the womb, not removing it first and then kill it.
Originally posted by SoulReaper
Do you even realize how insane it is to call the first "order of action" a legal abortion and the second "order of action" a murder?
Originally posted by 1/2 Nephilim
Call me crazy, but what is the difference?