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Originally posted by dominicus
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Due to some radical changes in my life, I've been doing yoga and meditation for a few months now. The reasons have never been to attain any form of spiritual enlightenment, but to use the methods to help me recover from illness. Helping me strengthen my core and help me relax. So far I am happy with the outcome.
Yes it is worth it. I've done it all in life, tons of women, 6 figure accounts, made my dreams come true, traveled, seen the world, have met and worked with celebrities, all types of success, finest foods, drinks, etc etc etc ....but nothing even comes close or touches the Enlightenment states and everything that comes with it (and there is alot that comes with it, timelessness, transcendence, bliss, Love, Expansion, etc.
Not only that, it is a rare occurrence to exist as a human, on this planet, at this time, when the whole world's knowledge database is available at your fingertips and you easily weed out who has enlightenment and who doesn't.
The flip side is you waste your life on trivial pursuits and do what everyone else does, job, kids, wife, house, grow old, retire, die
I enjoy the practices, but don't seek enlightenment, because I don't know whether its worth spending your whole life, like Buddhist monks sitting there almost waiting for something they do not know how to recognise as anything different than their current state of being.
It doesn't have to be "whole life" It can happen in a second with the right teachings. The reason many monks spend the rest of their lives in meditation, is they are simply deepening the various states and the changes that the physical body eventually goes through. There is Enlightenment that is accessible to the average householder. Plus they do recognize the State of Enlightenment
If enlightenment is not really different from reality what's the point in trying to attain it? Is the self flagellation neccassary? I mean if you believe your going to be reincarnated, why not just enjoy life and forget the pursuit of enlightenment?
Because without Enlightenment, one lives in a Subjective Bias Bubble the creates illusions, problems, the whole "I won't be happy until I get _______ (fill in the blank) Insatiability syndrome, a slave to lust/the passions, to the whims of the ego and how it is scatter brained, and so forth.
On top of that various Spiritual Paths believe Enlightenment is the only ticket to never have to reincarnate again. I personally since I was 3 years old, was questioning this reality, my parents, why I am who I am, how all this got here, and have never ever been comfortable with existing on earth, until Enlightenment started creeping in, in various forms. This also uncovered a memory of pre-existing, so I don't even fear physical death anymore either. Also many times, I as Soul, pop out of the body and get pre-views of the afterlife and whats really going on. There are many things that come with all this
I already did all the research for you on this thread:
The Ultimate Enlightenment How To Thread
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Also wanted to add, there are many skeptics and their skepticism has imprisoned them from further digging into all this. I've been at this for 10+ years now and have found there is a definition for Enlightenment.
It has to do with Ego Death and the resulting Experience of the Unfiltered Absolute Unity State. It is found in all traditions. It is the same goal in Buddhism, Eastern/Esoteric Christianity, Sufism, Judaism, Hinduism, and even many of the Natives around the world. If you read their descriptions of this STate, it's all the same, just wrapped in different languages, cultures, definitions.
edit on 19-3-2013 by dominicus because: (no reason given)
Enlightenment is not a state.
Its the end of all states.
Its completely another way around: The condidition of a "common" everyday person is a state. Ego is trying to achieve "states" and invented spirituality to survive. Most of us live in complete illuusion. If "enlightenment" must be put to words, i would use the word coming home to your "true self".
ut offcourse we need words to talk about this, and words can never touch what is. I had a radical kundalini awakening in 2011. The worst thing about it is that theres no one left to claim it it.
Originally posted by Mykey057420
If you choose the path of Enlightenment, be warned. It is not a trandcending process or, even one of growth. Enlightenment is the annihilation of your ego, it isn't for the faint of heart. Your world will be completely shattered and replaced by blinding truth. You will escape the wheel of karma, nirvana isn't pleasent. It is absolution from all desire. The goal of enlightenment is absolution. If you feel you're done incarnating in this plane, then by all means.. Just saying though this isn't for everyone.... It's not marijuana it's L.S.D.edit on 20-3-2013 by Mykey057420 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Mykey057420
If you choose the path of Enlightenment, be warned. It is not a trandcending process or, even one of growth. Enlightenment is the annihilation of your ego, it isn't for the faint of heart. Your world will be completely shattered and replaced by blinding truth. You will escape the wheel of karma, nirvana isn't pleasent. It is absolution from all desire. The goal of enlightenment is absolution. If you feel you're done incarnating in this plane, then by all means.. Just saying though this isn't for everyone.... It's not marijuana it's L.S.D.edit on 20-3-2013 by Mykey057420 because: (no reason given)