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As for "free-will", it really isn't free-will if he is sending people to hell right?
Hell is just a consequence, it doesn't keep you from practicing your free will if you want to practice it.
If everyone had free will without consequences, none of us would survive.
Originally posted by DanUKphd
Mark 3:23-26
“How can Satan drive out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come.
So if Satan cannot drive out Satan (demons) so how can the anti-Christ trick people by performing such miracles
Satan is not divided or opposed to himself if he's tricking people, because that's what he does. I don't get your point at all.
Notwithstanding the tiny detail of god being the creator of said adversary...what do people not understand about the term all-powerful?...always amazes me...
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by akushla99
Notwithstanding the tiny detail of god being the creator of said adversary...what do people not understand about the term all-powerful?...always amazes me...
Not to mention a very human personality. Such power in a human personality is enough to cause insanity. It would break him. He would essentially be "Satan". I've always wondered if the two have been in business all this time...a giant chess game between the two of them. A game of power, fighting to maintain existence of each other, knowing that they will die if anyone forgets them, knowing they will lose power and fade away if the other falls. A game of love and war.
And that, my friends, is the story of how every rose has it's thorn, and every storm has its ray. Is a game of chess, trading troubles for glory, worth it? Because you've been playing it for quite some time now, because we too are human...because he made them in his image. Who wants to be perfect all the time? I'm sure the greatest gift is simply to see his children succeed. Not every child goes the way of its parent.
All speaking metaphorically, of course.edit on 1-3-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SimonPeter
It is for sure that JESUS needs no introduction . Everybody knows him either as Lord and Savior or as a bright heavenly light illuminating their shame for all to see . No wonder they hate him and seek to hide themselves from the judgement to come .
Those were angels according to the New Testament.
According to scripture, he actually spoke to "God".
Not that they are the same person.
You do realize that this is the basis for Christianity don't you?
Who are the members of the godhead is not a mystery.
That's why the Bible is called a mystery.
John 10:34
Jesus answered them, 'Is it not having been written in your law: I said, ye are gods?
Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High
Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by arpgme
So if Satan cannot drive out Satan (demons) so how can the anti-Christ trick people by performing such miracles?
Jesus said a time will come where he will just let people believe their own lies.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Deetermined
If someone is intruding then it isn't "free" will it is "controlled" will.
Free-will would be going to the movies today or not, and spending money would be the consequence.
Controlled will would be going to the movies today or not, and someone claiming that you have "free-will" but they'll torture you if you go.
Do you see the difference?
One is CONTROLLED because a being is controlling your will by threatening you and planning to torture you for making a choice - it is NOT a NATURAL CONSEQUENCE.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Deetermined
Who are the members of the godhead is not a mystery.
That's why the Bible is called a mystery.
What is a mystery is how someone who is a god can be born as a man.
That we can't understand but it is very clear who the persons are in the Trinity.
Now of course it is a mystery to you because you belong to a cult that is financed by Jewish Zionists who want to get rid of the Christian God in favor of their god, which of course Christians know is not God.
"Cultism" would be someone's activity as a cult member.
Trinity belief is a cultism.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by mplsfitter539
"Cultism" would be someone's activity as a cult member.
Trinity belief is a cultism.
Trinity is a concept, not a bunch of people who believe in a godhead.
If you want to condemn anyone for believing in the Trinity, then you have to condemn Christianity, then make sure you exclude yourself from being considered a Christian.
Once you have done that, then I have no quarrel with you on the subject, and you can live a happy life from now on as a Jew or whatever god you choose to believe in.