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If you are interested In Jesus, rather than maybe what you consider 'mainstream, Christianity' then you should be reading the New Testament, which is the current 'word of God', regardless of whatever cult beliefs you have been brainwashed into believing.
I only believe and follow the word of God.
I am sorry I have absolutely no idea how to respond to this post. You are obviously very angry and for some reason you feel the need to blame mainstream Christianity. On that point we agree but I don't know what cult you are lumping me into. The trinity did not have to be disputed earlier than the fourth century because it was unheard of outside of the pagan religions. It didn't become an issue until the church began to merge with the pagans and include pagan doctrine into the scheme. So lets get this straight the trinity, xmas, easter, eternal torment, immortal soul, and free will are just a few of the things that mainstream Christianity buys into that I don't. So which cult do I belong to?
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by mplsfitter539
If you are interested In Jesus, rather than maybe what you consider 'mainstream, Christianity' then you should be reading the New Testament, which is the current 'word of God', regardless of whatever cult beliefs you have been brainwashed into believing.
I only believe and follow the word of God.
Go ahead and read that some more.
I'm sure you believe a lot of stuff where the name of that particular doctrine is not in the Bible, like the rapture, or the millennium, so don't let that stop you from accepting the Trinity.
You should understand that the Trinity was never disputed by Christians before there was an official doctrine drawn up in the ecumenical councils. It was some finicky details that were disputed, and not the general concept. So the Trinity was in no way whatsoever merely a fourth century invention.
What you are suffering from is the devilish work of anti-Christian foundations that fund and support psedo-Christian ideology through the cults to develop an American political backing for the Zionist regime illegally occupying Palestine.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
Lucifer was never called the Bright and Morning Star in the bible . Im sure you can find something published that will say it though . You will find what you are hunting . Everything but what you are hunting when it comes to allaying your fears that you just might be wrong and have to face the judgement .
The cult that is anti-Christian but hides its real intent by presenting itself as "true" Christianity, calling in a derogatory way, Christianity outside their own cult, "mainstream".
I don't know what cult you are lumping me into.
Lucifer was never called the Bright and Morning Star in the bible . Im sure you can find something published that will say it though . You will find what you are hunting . Everything but what you are hunting when it comes to allaying your fears that you just might be wrong and have to face the judgement .
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! - Isaiah 14:12
In Revelations 22:16, Jesus says "I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star". The bright and morning star is Lucifer! The star that fell from heaven! The star that can be seen in the morning sky before the SUN truly rises!
How you have fallen from heaven, ***O MORNING STAR***, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! - Isaiah 14:12
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Deetermined
If you would kindly refer to the post directly above yours, it says "son of the dawn", not "son of the morning star".
The bright morning star is referring to Jesus in Revelation.
Shows how much you know...
Shows how much you know...
The Hebrew for Isaiah 14:12 is "hylel ben sachar" which says. "Crescent moon and star".
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NOTurTypical
The Hebrew for Isaiah 14:12 is "hylel ben sachar" which says. "Crescent moon and star".
Oh, so it's a mistranslation? Even better! Now we know we can't rely on any of it!
Job 38: 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy
I have a thread on the subject, I started a year and a half ago, on "The Bright Morning Star".
That's an easy claim to make without supporting scripture.
Do you have any quotes you'd like to add?