Originally posted by RancidCat
For reason's such as the blatant posting of the wikipedia definition of "Kosher tax" that was on the same page as the video clip, trying as it were
to make me look like an idiot, i know that was on there, the site is an anti violence site totaly unbiased and providing both sides, Wiki articles
cannot be used as a trusted source of information and already that article has been used to try and shoot down twitchy.
Yes, we all know that wiki is not a great source, but the thing with wiki is -- it gives sources outside of itself. If you had read my posts you would
have seen that I provided a plethora of links besides wiki that demonstrate my argument.
Its that kind of tactic and the fact that you jumped into this thread with both feet admitting that you had'nt even read the opening
I "jumped into this thread with both feet" by asking Twitchy a QUESTION -- in response to which he immediately insulted me and attacked my
character, thus dismissing my points from the get-go.
...and then spent the next 8+ pages shouting out prove it, prove it, like a broken record, when twitchy had already laid out the
Of course I'm going to ask him to prove it! LMAO @ "facts." Sure there were facts, but not many relevant ones. The problem is this: the premise of
the thread is: "we are paying a 'tax' to the Jews when we buy products and that is not fair to 'the other 97%'." OK great. Can you demonstrate
that the cost of the products to the consumer increases because of kosher certification? The business journals and papers I have read on the subject
(many of which are posted on this thread) almost unanimously conclude that the cost of certification is offset by the profits derived from the extra
sales. If anything the widened market lowers the price.
Plus the hideous self gloating when twichy failed to provide the world jewish bank statements showing there annual income, from what can only
be described as a racket, as if that fact alone debunked the entire purpose of his thread, which incidently was to make people aware of this "tax"
that they are unwittingly paying for.
BUT THEY (WE) DON'T PAY FOR IT, that's my point. So the whole premise is bunk!
The gross sales of kosher products ($200 billion or whatever) is NOT the same as the COST of the kosher certification. The term "billions" keeps
getting thrown around like that's what the certifiers are making
from the certifications; that is not the case.
The manufacturers (or whoever) pays the certifiers a certain fee. Then the manufacturer (or whoever) sets their price, and the product sells at a
profit to the manufacturer. This does not equal profits to the certifiers.
How is this not obvious at this point?
If someone could provide some viable information showing that the certification companies are cashing in
, then I would be arguing the other
side, believe me.
Maybe some of you are not on the lower end of the pay scale, have 2 hungry kids and struggle to pay the bills, but to those, such as myself
that are, every penny does really count.
Tell me about it. I have a family of 5 trying to make it on my pay alone. That's why I shop at ALDI's. My family and I struggle every single day. It
is very presumptuous of you to assume that I am somehow well off simply because I disagree with the OP on this issue and I am vocal about it. Why
wouldn't I be?
As I said before I am sorry I insulted him like I did, and I would offer that apology to him were I not on his ignore list (though I wouldn't expect
to get one in return).
Its the hidden little charges like this that make the rich richer and keep my kids wanting, i don't like that, it makes me sad.
See, we do agree, sort of, and I do sort of agree with Twitchy in a certain respect. There IS a problem when "milk is $4 a gallon," as he says. I
just don't think it's due to any imaginary "kosher tax."
It's due to inflation, and fractional reserve banking, and the warfare/welfare state, and the fact that our government is out of control with
spending and our dollar is being devalued. If anything I see this kosher business as part of the same red herring that has people up in arms about
If the powers that be keep us (read: normal everyday people) squabbling amongst each other about kosher scams and evil freemasons and [insert
ridiculous conspiracy theory here], then we MISS what is really happening, which is that we are being robbed. Slowly and methodically.
If you want to know why prices are rising, look to the central banking scheme, inflation, and the graduated income tax, war spending and general
irresponsibility in government and manipulation of the markets.
Picking on people who are just trying to follow their faith, and then attacking people who try to make it easier for them to do so, then attacking
people who see the business benefit of certifications, is falling into exactly the trap they want us to fall into. Hatred for one another, and a
blind-eye to the hands that really ARE in our pockets.
I admire your and twitchy's passion for the topic, but I'd ask you to forgive me for saying I think it is misdirected.
Twitchy thinks I hate him, and he probably hates me. He thinks we are enemies. But we are not enemies so much as we are two people that are pissed off
about the same thing, but who look to different people as being responsible. We're both just as sure as the other that we're right, so obviously
there will be conflict.
I do regret that I was so cross before; confrontation like that is not the best way to get people to see your point... but at times you have to do
with what you've got. That's what I had that day/week whatever it was. I tried the patient route and got irritated with what I percived to be
intentional hardheadedness. I'm just a dude at the end of the day.
I do wish he would answer some of the questions I posed to him though.