Quake Watch 2013

reply to post by ericblair4891


Hi, Eric!

Good articles!
Were you ever an actuary or paralegal? You'd make a good one!
Oh, by the way, 'The Times on Line' 404's.

I'm in PA, so most of those articles hit close to home!
When they first started fracking around here,
they used to just drain the used fluid into the rivers.
Then they must have found out some of what was really in it.

Next they took it to sewage treatment plants...
'til they found out they can't treat for everything that's in it!
But how long were they accepting it until they discovered that???
Of course there were reports from people out camping in the woods,
who saw trucks emptying it out in the boonies under cover of darkness too!!!

But I found a link, in one of your links....something from 2011 that I hadn't heard about before.

www.popularmechanics.com...

A chemical sponge that pulls toxins from water.
The title is misleading though! It's not a 'chemical sponge'.
It's a sponge made of silica, that absorbs chemicals!

Kind of like the stuff inside diapers?!
But it's 'hydrophobic'. It won't absorb water, only contaminants!
And it can be reused more than a hundred times.
It sounds really promising! Maybe it's the answer finally!

Too bad it wasn't around before the BP disaster!
It said it can be 'squeezed out', (I guess it's really heated!).
All kinds of possible applications.
The prototype was able to treat 60 gallons/minute!

You don't hear them mention much about water being a finite resource!
But this 'sponge' sure could be the answer.
There may be hope after all!!!

The start up company is ABSMaterials.
Would love to be able to get in on it!
Hmmm...I wonder if it's an option for hubby's 401K???
WOQ

reply to post by muzzy


No I think their server is sick. I get the same error and to be sure ye could not call dear auld Oireland an unfriendly nation. We love youse all especially after the black stuff has been flowing.

Massive amount of aftershocks from the Southern Iran 6.3 but very little from this one

Prov,Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
emsc,2013-04-16 16:26:48, 28.210, 62.117, 3.7, 100.0, Iran Pakistan Border Region
emsc,2013-04-16 13:54:04, 28.214, 62.465, 4.1, 80.0, Iran Pakistan Border Region
emsc,2013-04-16 10:44:20, 28.146, 62.083, 7.8, 87.0, Iran Pakistan Border Region

reply to post by PuterMan

sorry about that. looks like they don't like anyone, the link doesn't work for me either.
we'll ship em 2nd grade lamb from now on then.

Yes thats interesting about the 2 quakes and the quantity of aftershocks.
Must be to do with depth 20km (the 6.3) versus 70km (the 7.7)

I am noticing that for Japan as well, as I go through I am compiling aftershock lists for some of their Mag 6's,
started with the 6.9ML TOKACHI, HOKKAIDO 02/02/2013 quake at 107.7km deep which had 182 aftershocks in the first 24hrs,
then the 6.3ML NORTHERN TOCHIGI, HONSHU 25/02/2013 quake at 2.8km which had 490 aftershocks in the same 24hrs period
so it looks even though the deeper quake was bigger, it had less aftershocks

as always 2 examples i s not enough to draw a conclusion, more research is required.

lot of catching up to do with Japan, just finished Feb 2013, so will get up to within 3 days ago, then run the mag 6's through and do a page on each with the aftershock spill graphs and maps.

Question to anyone.

Are these quakes in Oklahoma considered fracking quakes?

I just saw eric's post. Off to do some reading.

Thank you guys

Mag 6.3 incoming. More details in a mo

geofon.gfz-potsdam.de...

Getting 6.8 from EMSC and USGS

earthquake.usgs.gov...

www.emsc-csem.org...

Potsdam has gone to 6.4 now.

Magnitude 6.8 - Near The North Coast Of New Guinea. Papua New Guinea

Location in Google Maps

• Date-Time: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 @ 22:55:26 UTC
  
• Earthquake location: 3.099°S, 142.552°E,
  
• Earthquake depth: 10.0 km
  
• Distances:
  28km (17mi) E of Aitape, Papua New Guinea
  124km (77mi) WNW of Wewak, Papua New Guinea
  151km (93mi) ESE of Vanimo, Papua New Guinea
  220km (136mi) ESE of Jayapura, Indonesia
  865km (537mi) NW of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea
  
• Event ID: pt13106002
  

Derived from Event Data Source: USGS
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000
WEAK53 PAAQ 162302
TIBAK1

PUBLIC TSUNAMI INFORMATION STATEMENT NUMBER 1
NWS WEST COAST/ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER PALMER AK
402 PM PDT TUE APR 16 2013

...THIS IS A TSUNAMI INFORMATION STATEMENT FOR ALASKA/ BRITISH
COLUMBIA/ WASHINGTON/ OREGON AND CALIFORNIA...

EVALUATION
----------
* THERE IS NO TSUNAMI DANGER FOR THE AREAS LISTED ABOVE.

* THIS EVALUATION IS BASED ON EARTHQUAKE INFORMATION AND
HISTORIC TSUNAMI RECORDS.

* AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH PARAMETERS LISTED BELOW.


PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE PARAMETERS
---------------------------------
* MAGNITUDE 6.8
* ORIGIN TIME 1455 AKDT APR 16 2013
1555 PDT APR 16 2013
2255 UTC APR 16 2013
* COORDINATES 3.1 SOUTH 142.6 EAST
* DEPTH 6 MILES
* LOCATION NEAR N COAST OF NEW GUINEA PNG.


NEXT UPDATE AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
--------------------------------------
* THIS WILL BE THE ONLY WCATWC MESSAGE FOR THIS EVENT
UNLESS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE.

* REFER TO THE INTERNET SITE WCATWC.ARH.NOAA.GOV FOR
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

* PACIFIC COASTAL REGIONS OUTSIDE CALIFORNIA... OREGON...
WASHINGTON... BRITISH COLUMBIA AND ALASKA SHOULD REFER TO THE
PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER MESSAGES AT PTWC.WEATHER.GOV.

$$


www.tsunami.gov...

The last I wanted to do today was write. I have walked away for the computer many times and something keeps telling me to check Oklahoma. And every time I check, it seems ongoing. But. I'm sure it's just after shocks. Well, I don't believe that. That's what that Austin Holland, or is it Holland Austin. Whicheverwhom he is, he says it's all natural. I believe that was his opinion on the bigger ones and 2011. I could be wrong. Not going to check on that.

I am having an internal debate. My gut tells me this is not after shocks. But rather, it's a chain reaction. No, the last few earthquakes cannot be called direct frackquakes. The first few may have been due to over pumping in the injection wells. This last bit is the earth itself trying to sort itself out. There have been about 24 quakes in the last 24 hours. About 9 of them were in the felt range. The others too small to feel. But there nonetheless.

If you take the two furthest points and imagine that's the length of the fault, you get a crack about 40 km long. If that's the case.

And here's what ticks me off- again I want to use profanity but won't- the faults that are noted in Oklahoma around Oklahoma City run north-south. And not northwest-southeasterly. These must be new found faults.
Oh what do I know.

What I think is that they'd better stop pumping before we found out what the maximum man made earthquake can really be.

jwadeharrell.wordpress.com...

Oh, the link that didn't work in my earlier post was about Ben Lupo. There's lots of sites listing his legal troubles.




Also, I've been hesitating and trying not to rant about worldwide earthquakes and clustering. (new 6.8M PNG)Except, that's what I think we're having at this moment. It's not extreme. But, it was a bit quiet, and now it's a bit noisy. I'm sure it's just statistics. It's like the climate debate. When it's hot, we tend to think we're going to melt. Then when it's cold, like this winter, we tend to think that hot stuff is gone and winter will never end. Poop. I'm not going there.

Oh why can't everything just goin in a straight line.

as to eric's fracking ideas. i am in ny state just over the line from good ole pa. the way they deal with the left over fracking mix is stupid.1 way i have heard from the gas co's ppl is to use sawdust to soak up the mix n rid the water then (i cant make this stuff up) since it is HARMFUL n they cant dump it back into the river, they discard it in a landfill that is a hill near the freaking river. yeah i dont make this up. that is just part of the stupidity. u cant frack-drill in ny state,however guess where this dump site is?? yep on the north side of the river in NY. the other way they use is truck the fluid to ohio n re-inject it into a deep well. the idea is it will never come back n ohh we dont need water now or later. ummm they forgot we had a drought last yr. those re-inject wells can cause EQ's. proved by china /japan but nobody in usa is smart enuf nor would they admit it.


i agree the ok eq's r foreshocks. keep ur heads up.

on anuther point, is there any EQ in the arctic circle???? watch there for the next 24hrs plzzz.

update to post by PuterMan


Potsdam have gone up to 6.5 and I am thinking that the others will be coming down towards that.

Not showing very strongly: MARNC.ND.00.HHZ.2013.106

Not very strong on the closest public seismo.
This is MANU: MANU.AU..BHZ.2013.106

PMG.IU.00.LHZ.2013.106

reply to post by muzzy


Much appreciate your kind and informative reply.

So . . . you evidently don't think that the 3 7.x quakes will necessarily mean anything more significant is coming, I gather.

And, that instead, it is more likely that stress has been relieved and things will be quieter in that region now? Or not?

Have those big quakes cocked some other part of the region more hazardously?

Is there any way to tell if such quakes are relieving stress more likely contributive to a period of quietness in a region

vs

cocking a relatively nearby area in the same fault system for a greater, more likely hazard?

reply to post by ericblair4891


Eric,
Found this link for faults in Oklahoma lists a lot more that just the Meers Fault that shows up on some maps. Still I think this is an old map because it does not show the Seminole Uplift & Wilzetta Fault on it. I too think there is more going on under the state with these recent quakes. Wondering...

www.okgeosurvey1.gov...

reply to post by PuterMan


Ahhh. Thx much. I understand.

Do you have any insight or trained intuition about how to distinguish

WHEN THERE IS a cluster of big quakes or even say one above 7.0 . . .

How to distinguish between the likelihood that much stress has been relieved and the region will likely be quieter for a while

vs

a nearby or adjacent or some such part of the region has then been cocked for a sooner &/or more hazardous additional large quake.

Thx for all you do for all of us hereon.

reply to post by PuterMan



My uneducated, landscapin' self thinks that the lack of aftershocks from 7.8 could mean that this is just a warm-up to something bigger

Hope not though!!!


Hey Puterman! So much for a slow second day after rejoining us yesterday

reply to post by radpetey


i'll agree with that tonight n morrow. my EQ map shows a lot of red boxes. seems to b a very busy night for EQ's.
anyone spot 1 in the arctic hollar reallll loud plzz.

Type: Earthquake

5 minutes ago

Magnitude: 4.1

DateTime: Wednesday April 17 2013, 02:57:57 UTC

Region: Baja California, Mexico

Depth: 24.8 km

Source: USGS Feed

quakes.globalincidentmap.com...

Type: Earthquake

23 minutes ago

Magnitude: 3.9

DateTime: Wednesday April 17 2013, 03:04:37 UTC

Region: Iran-pakistan Border Region

Depth: 50 km

Source: CSEM-EMSC Feed

quakes.globalincidentmap.com...

earthquake.usgs.gov...
5.7 in Iran

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by muzzy

 

Much appreciate your kind and informative reply.
So . . . you evidently don't think that the 3 7.x quakes will necessarily mean anything more significant is coming, I gather.
And, that instead, it is more likely that stress has been relieved and things will be quieter in that region now? Or not?
Have those big quakes cocked some other part of the region more hazardously?
Is there any way to tell if such quakes are relieving stress more likely contributive to a period of quietness in a region
vs
cocking a relatively nearby area in the same fault system for a greater, more likely hazard?

I really don't know, after Dusky Snd. and Christchurch 7.8, 7.0, 6.3, 6.3, 6.0 we had that 6.3mb (7.0ML) on the west coast of the North Island in July 2012 and thats pretty much it since, all the 5's we are getting are between here and the Kermadec Islands, which has always been a region of activity and probably will continue to be so.
Over time there have been 2-3-4 years where there were very few 5+ quakes in New Zealand and it could be we are going through one of those now.
One thing that makes me wonder is we have just had the driest Summer in 75 years, drought conditions, so no ground water to lubricate the faults???? not sure but it could be something to do with it?
We are still getting plenty of

reply to post by phoenixlights321

that would be the 7th aftershock, could be this series is a slow starter, might need a 6 to kick it all off
IIEES haven't listed that at this point in time

Type: Earthquake
37 minutes ago
Magnitude: 5.7
DateTime: Wednesday April 17 2013, 03:15:53 UTC
Region: Iran-Pakistan border region
Depth: 68.3 km
Source: USGS Feed

quakes.globalincidentmap.com...