posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 10:35 AM
Originally posted by King Seesar
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by DaesDaemar
I figured them and myself were the only ones left following the thread it got derailed long ago into a debate about things completely irrelevant
to the topic. Have you been reading? I didn't even try to debate these things. I was suckered into it
No way the ten page debate you and AugustusMasonicus have had on here and through out the other threads the last few days have been epic....
Truth be told i'm in the middle with both your opposing theologies i'm the guy who feels certin elements of BOTH Freemasonry and the Catholic church
have been infiltrated by special interest groups however that doesn't make me dislike Catholics or Freemasons i look at the person not the group in
As far as my spiritual beliefs i would say i was loseley Christian and do believe in Jesus and i do think the advisory is real call him what you want,
however i have my own theological beliefs on different things for instance i don't put much stock into the Old Testament as far as it's spiritual
teachings i feel God was misunderstood by the Old Testament prophets which is why one of the commandments is "thou shalt not kill" and then after
receiving that word Moses kills people worshipping the golden calf....
I feel Jesus taught the true meaning of God and only the New Testament should be taken into assertion as far as spritual beliefs however i do feel
there are good life lesson and moral stories and some history to be learned from the Old Testament but that's it...
1st off I was designing my answers to be more specifically to him and not others reading. You have to read them that way to understand them.
2nd You are correct, both have been infiltrated by special interest groups, and God allowed this test. That is only part of the reason myself and
others are wary about the Church's statement on Freemasonry. Half of the Catholic Church doesn't even think Satan exists!
which by default means
that they are not loyal to the Pope.
3rd God also told us to kill demon worshipers who sacrifice babies... some of God's favorites were killers. In the OT, God describes killings that
are not to be considered murder. You have to read the scripture in it's entirety and understand all of it, as the Temptation of Christ would so
clearly display for all of us (not saying you didn't). I personally place a lot of faith in the OT. You are right though, the New Covenant is the New
Law. The Old Law only applies where the NC did not make it void.
4th the most important thing the OT provides is a context of Salvation. Jesus of Nazareth was basically the end game, the victory. It's like reading
about WWII but only reading about D-Day and the Bombs. That is a loose analogy anyways.
5th Back then, idle worship was responsible for a TON of evil, which is what that would have been about from my understanding. Today, it is still
responsible for the vast majority of evil in the world. The idles have just changed to fit the times.
edit: The Church is full of those who have fallen to Satan. The Church itself NEVER will, and the true teachings of the Church will always be
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