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The new budget offer from the White House is unbelievable!

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posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by ChaoticOrder

Things will really get interesting on the 23rd. While everyone has their attention focused on the 21st of December, my attention will be focused on the 23rd of December, which is the day the Federal Reserve charter is supposed to be up for renewal. There is a big chance to change the current debt-based system into something more sustainable...


The Charter doesn't expire until December 23, 2013 from what I can tell.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Plexi
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A thousand times better than the previous 8 years under a conservative Bush regime.


Well, we'll see how the 8 years under an Obama regime will be.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Lower class???

What is the income tax amount collected from the "lower class"?
And then what is the amount refunded to them?

Yeah, the lower class is so burdened with taxes
. Sure sure.

Me thinks the issue is that a large portion doesn't really pay income taxes.

Oh, and why does my taxes have to go up, to help an out of control, money pissing away fed Govt get out of the red? Oh yeah, I forgot, because I have a job, work hard and have made good decisions in life that lead to a great paying job. That's why.


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posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Plexi
reply to post by macman
 


A thousand times better than the previous 8 years under a conservative Bush regime.


Wow, a booming economy, lower welfare numbers and low unemployment beg to differ.

But, you go ahead and banter on for Cesar 0bama and the bigger Govt crowd.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle

Originally posted by beezzer
Don't blame me, I voted for Romney.




I'm actually enjoying this car wreck! THIS is what the left voted for. Relish it. Savour it. Bathe in it. YOU all own it now.

*golf clap*

Whatcha gonna do for an encore?



yeah romney would have us in a budget surplus by now.


I guess we'll never know.


actually it's safe to say we know now since it's not possible for a president to ruin a country alone, you need congress and the senate to drive you there first and of course large corrupt banks to grease the gears.

i thought you had a far better grasp of politics, but i guess you're blinded by remorse.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Quite so. As the fanatical right is finding out.. there are fewer and fewer welcome spots for them at the table. As it should be.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Great to hear.

SO, the last 2 years have been peachy, since you know, the Dems have controlled 2/3 of the fed Govt.
They continue to have a 2/3 control, yet cry and complain that they can't proceed with 0bams's back breaking agenda.
When was the last budget submitted and approved?


So, it is nice to see that you are with the understanding of not just a Pres can crush the Country. It takes a 2/3 Dem controlled Govt to do it.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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New stimulus spending, and they want to be able to endlessly raise the debt limit?

It takes a full majority vote to STOP a debt limit increase?

Let it crash and burn, let them have what they want... The sooner we get to the inevitable the better.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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No, as the last midterm election proved that there are no room for RINOs and Dem Lite Repubs.

I do find it funny that SO many Liberals think they have the answer for Conservatives and Republicans to win.

To that, as a Conservative Libertarian, I say no thanks. You keep your Progressive ideals.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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Kind of hard to do anything when everything is met by filibuster or the threat thereof. Obstruction much?



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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I believe that Harry Reid and Company have used it often, yet they now want to change the rules, as they see Filibuster on the horizon for more Progressive Socialist agenda.

The Dems have used it, like the Reps have.

Turn a blind eye much?



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Plexi
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Quite so. As the fanatical right is finding out.. there are fewer and fewer welcome spots for them at the table. As it should be.



Ahhh, the world would be so much better if there weren't those pesky conservatives, wouldn't it!



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Yes stick to the religious right wing nut jobs... seeing as they had sooooo much success lately. Can't wait to see that defense budget cut. Just saying



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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Oh yeah, Filibuster is legal, right?

Elitist much?



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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Better?... probably... saner? Definitely.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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Great to hear.

SO, the last 2 years have been peachy, since you know, the Dems have controlled 2/3 of the fed Govt.
They continue to have a 2/3 control, yet cry and complain that they can't proceed with 0bams's back breaking agenda.
When was the last budget submitted and approved?


So, it is nice to see that you are with the understanding of not just a Pres can crush the Country. It takes a 2/3 Dem controlled Govt to do it.



you're under the assumption that the political game the dems and reps play for you is real. when was the last time the federal reserve and global banks weren't in charge of the U.S. government, that's the last time what our federal government shows us, was real.

it takes 535 to ruin a country and 300 million to be led like fools to their slaughter.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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For the moment...



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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What does religion have anything to do with the fact that 0bama now wants to circumvent Congress in relation to the debt ceiling. Or that the budget proposed is about as ridiculous as North Korea finding a tomb filled with unicorns.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Plexi
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Better?... probably... saner? Definitely.


Well, since the current GOP is occupied by spineless republicans, and the democrats are winning it all, we'll get to see what a progressive nation looks like.
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