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Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by MisterMarbles
The amount of money they receive is the same regardless of how they spend it, so you shouldn't care how they spend it.
WRONG.
I pay into it.
Use it for Necessities, or allow me to opt-out into subsidizing for it.
There is no checks and balances. Its designed to break America, and keep people impoverished.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by magma
Which people do not know about the problem? Pretty sure that the people who use food stamps are well aware of a problem.
There is a problem with the government .. not with people using food stamps when they need it. The problem is the policies of the government CAUSING so many people to be on food stamps. The people who are on food stamps aren't the problem.
And I dont know if people on food stamps know that the government is the problem. How many of them voted this last time around? Did they vote for something different to try to change the problem or did they go with the status quo ?? If they are aware of the government policies being the problem .. who did food stamp recipients vote for and why??
I don't know those stats ...
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by FlyersFan
Perhaps you would find Canada to be less unsavory? I have a hard time understanding what you're still doing here if you find American policy to be so distasteful.
Many SNAP participants had jobs. Nearly 30 percent of SNAP households had earnings in 2010, and 41 percent of all SNAP participants lived in a household with earnings. For most of these households, earnings were the primary source of income.
The primary form of income among SNAP
participants shifted from welfare to work. In
1990, 42 percent of all SNAP households received
cash welfare benefits and only 19 percent had
earnings. In 2010, only 8 percent received cash
welfare, while 30 percent had earnings.
The majority of SNAP households did not
receive cash welfare benefits. Only 8 percent of
all SNAP households received Temporary
Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) benefits
and another 4 percent received State General
Assistance (GA) benefits.
Over 21 percent of SNAP households received Social Security and nearly 21 percent received Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits given to the aged and disabled. SNAP
Most SNAP households were small. The
average SNAP household size was 2.2 persons,
but varied considerably by household composition.
Households with children were larger, averaging
3.3 members. Households with elderly
participants were smaller, averaging 1.3 members.
Originally posted by antonia
Either way, I see no real solutions being discussed here. A lot of complaining, not much else.
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by FlyersFan
So how long do people think this can continue?
All of these giant failed government programs will be pointless not if, but WHEN THE GOVERNMENT GOES BANKRUPT as did Iceland's, Ireland's, Greece, Latvia, Spain etc.
Originally posted by jimmiec
Obviously it buys votes. When government tries to help the poor they hurt the poor because people abuse the system. If the government really wants to help the poor they would do it at the community level. People in the community know the people who need help and what it will take to get them back on their feet. The FED just cuts checks. Getting a check from the FED hurts the poor because there is less to help them with due to the abuse. It corrupts our voting system and is wasteful beyond belief.
Originally posted by Osiris1953
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by FlyersFan
So how long do people think this can continue?
All of these giant failed government programs will be pointless not if, but WHEN THE GOVERNMENT GOES BANKRUPT as did Iceland's, Ireland's, Greece, Latvia, Spain etc.
Funny you should mention Iceland.... The problem there was greedy bankers who crashed the economy, sound familiar? They didn't blame each other and differing political alignments for the problems, they got together as a nation peacefully overthrew their government, drafted a new constitution, elected new officials, and imprisoned the greedy bankers, and corrupt officials who caused the crash. I see them as an inspiration, and I feel you have unfairly lumped them together Greece especially.
The system needs an overhaul here, but instead of working together we're being divided by TPTB so they can continue to subjugate us.
Iceland also took unorthodox steps in other areas, forgiving around 200 billion crowns' ($1.54 billion) worth of household debt and providing big tax benefits to the lowest income households.
It severely cut back state spending in some areas, but preserved the social safety net.
"We cut the budget but we preserved as much as possible in education, health, social security and infrastructure like law enforcement," Sigurdardottir said. "In the years leading up to the crisis, the gap between the richest and the poorest in society widened and our measures in the crisis focused on diminishing this gap, with more equality."
The relief boosted consumption, lifting growth to 4.5 percent year-on-year in the first quarter this year, in sharp contrast to stagnation or recession in much of the euro zone.
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
I get that because of all the things government spend money on some choose this topic to whine about.
So IMO food stamps must have a direct impact on the people who are complaining.
Originally posted by kaylaluv
You have any suggestions on how to stop these things without regulations?
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
You never answered the question. How many food stamp recipients work?
75% Pluheese. Sorry but you could not be more wrong. And what does that last line of your post even mean. Slavery to those who do not wish to contribute? You will need to clarify that statement because it doesnt make sense.
Originally posted by ConspiracyBuff
reply to post by FlyersFan
47,102,780 "Democratic" Votes.
Normal everyday working people will only wake-up to the pit-falls of Fascist Socialism after they do not receive any income taxes back one year and then the next year are taxed @ 75% flat rate to pay for this insanity, with eroded purchasing power to boot.
The next "Civil War" will be fought over slavery. Slavery to those who do not wish to contribute...edit on 24-11-2012 by ConspiracyBuff because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Osiris1953
The way I see the current problems is this: the right caused the crash that made increased social programs a necessity and the policies of the left have made it impossible for those already on public assistance to get off of it.