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A photon in motion is a wave not a particle... I guess you're not familiar with the wave/particle duality of photons... makes it difficult to discuss this with you.
Originally posted by Bedlam
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
Which "vibrational state" of matter would that be? Photons can have pretty much any frequency higher than zero.
Originally posted by DrGod
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by AutOmatIc
Well that was one of the parts which I really had a harder time believing. I just can't seem to understand how physics or evolution would permit some sort of sudden evolutionary shift into some sort of so called 4th density.
If the amount of energy released into our atmosphere increases to an extreme level, then perhaps we could obtain all of the energy we needed so that we would no longer need our physical, food eating, energy creating bodies anymore. Perhaps we (our conscious self), could escape our bodies and enter a new realm, or dimension of "life".
Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by consolution
I was going to give you a S&F but then I noticed this "daniel" person is affiliated with Project Camelot. I dunno, Wilcox strikes me a bit odd and their fact checking standards are below par. They have some amazing stories but they never check credentials of the people they interview.
With that alone, I'm out.
Originally posted by Power_Semi
Time is just a man made concept related to the revolution of the earth around the sun.
You can't "access" it, it is not a thing, it is a concept.
The petrochemicals will raise the Gulf temperatures substantially, alter the natural course of weather systems in the northern hemisphere, and raise the global temperature 2-3 degrees C, which will actually give the northern hemisphere a richer growing season for a while - at the expense of the southern hemisphere, which will be ecologically devastated. Of course, land there will get really cheap and be bought up by the big Oil folks-how much of Chile and Argentina has BushCo bought?
Originally posted by DrGod
If the amount of energy released into our atmosphere increases to an extreme level, then perhaps we could obtain all of the energy we needed so that we would no longer need our physical, food eating, energy creating bodies anymore. Perhaps we (our conscious self), could escape our bodies and enter a new realm, or dimension of "life".
Originally posted by JayDub113
Thanks for the thread.. Some of this is fascinating. They are doling it out sure enough. Anybody see "Fringe" last week? They set up a small cubical device of some kind and what did it do? Why it made a window to the future of course.
Very interesting read. I especially liked the part about getting stuck in the green and blanking out. It just rings true to a degree. Awesome post.
Originally posted by consolution
Hello Everybody,
two science underground papers recently appeared on the web. The author calls himself "Daniel" and claims to have worked in the Phoenix III project, the time travel aspect of the Montauk project as he says.
Both papers appeared on www.ascensionwithearth.com and can be downloaded here www.soldierhugs.com.
The first paper is entitled "Geoengineering, Chemtrails, HAARP, World Orders, Time Lines and Ascension".
The paper can be downloaded through this link: Daniel's Paper #1.
The second paper is called "Time and Timelines". The download link is here: Daniel's Paper #2
Both papers can also be viewed at www.ascensionwitheart.com through this link: Daniel's papers #1 and #2
Now, he makes a few extraordinary claims and as it touches on scientific concepts that are difficult to grasp and verify, I would love to discuss some of the assumptions here, hoping to get more insights and opinions from scientifically inclined ATS members.
I will go through the papers step by step starting with the first statement that struck me. Thanks to anybody participating in a constructive manner, especially to those that take the time and effort to explain some science to a layman of natural sciences like me.
So the first statement Daniel makes that I wondered about is this in paragraph 3 of paper #1:
In order to access time , a navigation computer from a faster-than-light propulsion system was utilized to open a portal, from which a visual record could be made.
He claims that faster-than-light propulsion system have been developed or in use in the Phoenix III/Montauk project. Is that a reasonable thing to say and if so how would these propulsion system work in theory?
Originally posted by qvision
Because there are hidden messages in crap TV series that pretend to be SciFi, didn't ya know ?
Originally posted by kwakakev
If we look at the equation E=Mc^2, we are able to accelerate at the speed of light if we are willing to transfer our mass to energy. With our current technology this would end quite messy with processes like annihilation, but theoretically possible if all of the physical properties could be accounted and managed.
As for light itself, I see it operates similar to sound, but instead of atoms and molecules transferring the energy as we get with sound, it is the electrons transferring the energy with light. This approach does help account for the wave / partial duality of light and accounts for why a photon has no mass.
As for how a FTL drive would work, it would have to be on some principle other than electromagnetism if it is to break this barrier. Gravity waves might be a possibility or some other sub atomic interaction on a deeper physical level, like quantum entanglement.
Originally posted by knowledgedesired
I think time travel is a Big Myth and is not possible.
The creator wants us to have free will and advancing in time to alter events would disrupt free will and distort events.
It makes no sense to me whatsover that you could travel to a period in time before it actually happens.
My two cents...
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
...an object's mass increases as it accelerates. As it approaches the speed of light, it's mass becomes infinite and therefore impossible to provide enough fuel for such a propulsion system.
Yes I think we are all aware of that little fact.
These papers don't attempt to explain the mechanism behind FTL travel, only the implications and result of FTL travel. There may be loop holes around that problem anyway, such as a propulsion drive which warps space to gain spacial thrust, or a mechanism which could potentially reduce the mass of an object to the mass of a photon.edit on 8/11/2012 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)