Originally posted by PurpleChiten
reply to post by SaturnFX
I actually had a thread about exactly what you are talking about.
Of course the concept was lost on many. They don't want to hear truth or look at things from another perspective, they just go full steam ahead and
continue to prove the point you are making
Well, it doesn't serve them well.
In order to correct a problem, you must first identify the problem. Failure can strengthen you if you allow it. Its critical to acknowledge when
something went wrong, then take measures.
The people whom were watching the candidates before the debates are the informed ones on both sides..thats when the talking points matter, the facts,
Debates are for people that have overall ignored everything, but will spend a little time to see what is going on here..but their mindset isn't about
fact checking anything...they simply believe that the politicians are more or less telling the truth (even when its completely not). Presence and
conviction matters in debates moreso than facts sadly.
Now, both sides almost equally stretched, bended, and even broke truth in various areas during the vp debate. this is understood by those of us in the
know...but Biden had overwhelming presence and to the average uninformed viewer, Biden painted it as only Ryan was spinning and lying due to the
smiling, laughing, and eye rolling. Sure, Joe came across as a bit overly aggressive, but the uninformed viewer definately felt that Ryan was fibbing
and doing lawyer gymnastics because of Joes reaction. Many people, when hearing what they know is a lie, have the same reaction, and that connects to
That tactic doesn't always work mind you. If you don't interrupt and try to give what sounds like the actual story, then it just looks like your an
ass in the corner...which is what joe did..he laughed, rolled eyes, and interruped with what sounded like a accurate truism...which again, is what
normal people do when some other dude (say at work throwing you under the bus) is lying about what happened.
I don't agree with the tactic (I am an informed voter however, more into the information over political theater), But I know its effective for the
target audience...and that is how I know Joe won the debate. Not a destruction win, not a nuclear strike...But a sort of 8 to 10 win.
But again...I think the Steward / O'Reilly debate the other night is equal, if not more significant than this in terms of actual voting sway.