Originally posted by Cuervo
So by your rationale, everybody's consciousness on ATS lives in my laptop since that's where I see them?
Sure, you can choose to think that if you like. The evidence that that is not so is more compelling though, that actual real people are communicating
through a vast network via individual laptops.
But I wouldn't apply my rationale to that idea in the first place, not sure why you would? Any argument applied to where it doesn't belong can be
'proven' to be an absurdity, it's a rhetorical device, but not useful for investigation of what is true, or rather what can be SHOWN to be true,
and therefore is worth believing.
Existence apart from any consciousness arising from having a body, can never be proven, because any experiential evidence must always take place
through that body, and so is part of it, and can be caused by it. Or more to the point, it can never be disproven. The number of things that can never
be disproved are infinite, so it seems a little irresponsible to believe in an infinity of things, just because they can never be disproven.
You make a choice to believe something, but it's not based on evidence or rational thinking, it's based on pyschological need. A rational case for
believing in things that make us feel better can be made, but if you know that they're false, or possibly false, they probably lose their benefit.
Anyway, this sort of thing can really only ever be reduced to one position, rationally speaking, and that is, 'Cool story bro.'
And maybe believing the disembodied points of view you experience via ATS are produced by your laptop IS a responsible attitude, at least until
further evidence is forthcoming that would prove otherwise. For most people that evidence comes earlier on in their life BEFORE they start operating a
laptop and browsing forums on ATS, but if you had just come into existence now, then that would be a perfectly reasonable postion.