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Originally posted by Dashdragon
reply to post by flexy123
Much kudos for putting this to bed flexy.
See, and this is why I've quit frequenting the boards. Too many people screaming with their tinfoil hats ready to believe anything put forward to them by anyone just because they 'want' to believe and are quickly outnumbering everyone else who will actually use sense. I won't say it's not great to be optimistic, but there has to be limits.
And even if this wasn't hoaxed, the machine, as explained exhaustively by many in the thread, can obviously not be perpetual because it relies on the magnets to power itself. Magnets are not perpetual. I will admit that something that will run on its own for a few thousand years is 'close enough' for our purposes with one, however.
The true definition for what makes up a perpetual motion machine isn't just the duration of how long it can run. The bare facts of it would be a machine that uses the same or less than the amount of power it produces.
Regardless of the fact that he cheated, this would not have been feasible for anything. Even with what some of you have referred to as a 'frictionless' system using more magnets to generate electricity added on, you would be simply be reversing the design of the machine already built and it would no longer run. Magnetic friction is still friction and a generator using magnets cannot generate anything without it.edit on 28-9-2012 by Dashdragon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by deadeyedick
These ideas are great.
The evolution will come when they start to use semi conductors and start blocking and directing the magnetic fields.
Right now the fields of the magnets are slowing it down because the field is not directed specifically.
If you were able to aim the field at revolving semi conductor points in a directed beam then you could make this produce.
You are closer to the real deal by what you just said than the OP's offered video claims. The secret is in the bending and manipulation of the fields. As long as everyone keeps sticking to slamming things directly into the opposing magnetic field, there is time to get this done as they will be tweaking with magnets for a long long time. I think I may give too much research away by making a two word description coming from over twenty years of research into this, but here goes the only clue that I have so far determined to be truthful on the concept. The real smart ones will know that I'm not talking about the thing I describe, but what the thing I describe is doing, and here it is..... consider it.
" Traffic lights. "
The rest is up to you'all to guess as to what that means. deadeyedick is the closest I've heard yet.
edit on 26-9-2012 by Fromabove because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BIHOTZ
what about my idea? liquid metal to make electricity....magnetized to provide flow within a containment vessel that manipulates opposing polarities to create said flow within the liquid metal and so electricity by centrifugal force being applied to it....?
Is that possible? I have zero technical training and ask in earnest....would that work with mercury or molten metal? Magnetized metal being spun at high velocities to produce electric charge...?
edit on 28-9-2012 by BIHOTZ because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by awake1234
Thanks for sharing.
Greatly enjoy the simplicity and genius of these inventions!!
The beginning is here, always was, is and will be ∞
∞LOVE
mayallsoulsbefree~*
Originally posted by jacknast76
thinking out loud..... Now could you just put this machine inside a coil of copper wire. The changing magnetic fields caused by the moving magnets will generate a current in the coils. no friction, free electricity.
Originally posted by Power_Semi
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by Power_Semi
But here the magnetic drum is already spinning, so if a coil could be constructed around it, allowing the top magnet to move, then it should create electricity without any losses due to friction due to coupling.
Any attempt to do that would stop it spinning even quicker than it is now.
How precisely would building a coil around it in free air, with no mechanical coupling to it possibly cause it to stop?
It is spinning, a coil around it in free space, like building a building around it would have no effect whatsoever on it.
It's spinning already. What your saying is akin to saying if we put some walls up around it 20 feet away would stop it spinning.
Idiot.
Magnetized metal being spun at high velocities to produce electric charge...?
How many times must we kick this dead horse????????:
Originally posted by Zecharia
How many times must we kick this dead horse????????:
Probably until you lot understand that if this was made main stream the technique could be perfected.